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Attn: YEP-321 owners!

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:37 am
by J.c. Sherman
These don't come up much...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Yamaha-Euphonium-5t ... 35a413ac70" target="_blank

Re: Attn: YEP-321 owners!

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:10 pm
by Uncle Buck
$810 seemed high to me too. From another perspective, though, a tuba player who doubles every now and then on euph - and has an inexpensive YEP-321 - might get a lot of bang-for-the-buck out of that $800.

Re: Attn: YEP-321 owners!

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:46 pm
by J.c. Sherman
It's worth that.

I have one, though I decided to mount it permanantly (it didn't take one extra part to do so) and mine is a flat whole step now. I'd charge at least that to build one from scratch for the 321. And it works very well. I heard they discontinued it because it was a more popular instrument (w/ 5 valves) than their 600 series "professional" horn. For good reason, IMHO.

J.c.S.

Re: Attn: YEP-321 owners!

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:54 pm
by J.c. Sherman
Yeah, with the flat half-step, you still don't own low B, of course. They had the same problem with the YEB-381 Eb. Never could figure that out. An it's one of the two stock tunings of the 621 F too. Weird.

Well, my costs would certainly be lower... mostly it would depend on the valve source and what the retail cost would be for the part. But it would be new, so touche. :-) :wink:

It would be interesting to use a .578 Thayer instead... Hmmm...

J.c.

Re: Attn: YEP-321 owners!

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:03 pm
by Dan Schultz
Good grief! What a price. Anyone else want one? I could scrap one of those cheepie Chinese rotary euphoniums and make FOUR of 'em!

Re: Attn: YEP-321 owners!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:05 am
by J.c. Sherman
The one downside of the 5valve setup is - believe it or not, it's a little stuffier than a compensating instrument 'round C and D. The Thayer jumped to mind thinking about that...

A stock Bass bone rotor is essentially what it is, with an H porting layout. Kanstul will make one that way at basically the same cost as a regular rotor (I've asked). However, a CR is a little more pricey.

Chinese rotors... there's a thought. Especially for the "Mainland" copies (my student has a Berkeley which is visually indistingushable from my 321).

Careful. Mr. Tinker - you might have a market!

J.c.S.

Re: Attn: YEP-321 owners!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:01 am
by Rick F
Good grief, what a price!
I agree. Some prices on ebay really take off.

I don't play a 321 so I'm puzzled. The 4th valve slide on the 321 faces the player - doesn't face out like on compensators. How does the player gain access to the trigger? I can see where you could use your thumb if the 4th slide faced out, but not when the slide is facing the player.

Re: Attn: YEP-321 owners!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:08 am
by Rick F
LJV wrote:Rick-

The lever is pushed with the rt thumb...
Duh... I didn't realize the lever was long enough reach that close to the right thumb.

Thanks

Re: Attn: YEP-321 owners!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:33 pm
by J.c. Sherman
LJV wrote:Rick-

The lever is pushed with the rt thumb...
Nope. Left hand holds the 3rd slide tube and the left thumb goes through the horn towards the back. The lever is there. It's not long enough for the right thumb enless you have a congenital deformity :-)

J.c.