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I've used mine daily for 9 years without a problem. Hagmanns are nearly maintanance free. These play really good and don't usually go for a lot of money. I'd bet a $1200 offer would get serious consideration.

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I agree that Hagmann valves are great, but this trombone doesn't have the Hagmann valves.

Oops! My bad! When you get old you really should blow up the pictures before writing your post.

I have the Hagmanns on my Edwards.....great setup.