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Interesting horn! Hopefully it plays better than the piston Hirsbrunner Eb I played last summer....

"This instrument is 10 years old, but played only for 17 weeks!."

Anybody else think that warrants a second thought before bidding?

Uncle Buck wrote:"This instrument is 10 years old, but played only for 17 weeks!."

Anybody else think that warrants a second thought before bidding?

Not necessarily - it could have been bought just before its player was taken ill and has been left unused ever since. It seems to be for sale from a reputable dealer.

I have a question.

I assume that the 4th valve is on the left hand. If that is true and low Ab is played 4+1 how on earth does one pull a slide to compensate for the generic sharpness of that note, as well as others on down the line?

Is there a reason I do not know that the horn was set up this way? Are there others? Maybe this is the reason it sat for 17 years.

Swedish magic!!!

Bob Kolada wrote:Swedish magic!!!

Be careful Bob with your geography; you're giving Americans a bad reputation!

Swedish magic is: IKEA, ABBA, Meatballs etc...

Swiss magic is: Hirsbrunner, Willson, chocolate, fondue etc..

Uncle Buck wrote:"This instrument is 10 years old, but played only for 17 weeks!."

Anybody else think that warrants a second thought before bidding?

This instrument was issued by the Swiss Army. Most Army players in Switzerland come from the Brass Band tradition and (only) play 3+ 1 compensating pistons. Some of them have never even seen an uncompensating horn so I can imagine that the horn was put back in the case once their military service was over.

Cameron Gates wrote:I have a question.

I assume that the 4th valve is on the left hand. If that is true and low Ab is played 4+1 how on earth does one pull a slide to compensate for the generic sharpness of that note, as well as others on down the line?

Is there a reason I do not know that the horn was set up this way? Are there others? Maybe this is the reason it sat for 17 years.

Cameron,

Yes, the disadvantage to this system is the left hand. The Ab 1-4 is sharp, Ab 1-2-4 is flat, G 2-3-4 is close, Gb 1-3-4 is close, and F 1-2-3-4 is sharp. These horns are fun to play but difficult to play in tune because of the left hand.

Timswisstuba wrote:

Bob Kolada wrote:Swedish magic!!!

Be careful Bob with your geography; you're giving Americans a bad reputation!

Swedish magic is: IKEA, ABBA, Meatballs etc...

Swiss magic is: Hirsbrunner, Willson, chocolate, fondue etc..

Hence the magic (read= whoops... )!