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2 Helicons; Mahillon Eb and Buescher (key?)

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:51 am
by sugawi

Re: 2 Helicons; Mahillon Eb and Buescher (key?)

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:22 pm
by windshieldbug
Not only does it appear to be in Eb, but the embossing on the 2nd valve indicates "HP", or a modern E.

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Re: 2 Helicons; Mahillon Eb and Buescher (key?)

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:27 pm
by sugawi
I thought HP stand for high pitch. Or that what high pitch means, Eb?

Re: 2 Helicons; Mahillon Eb and Buescher (key?)

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:19 pm
by bisontuba
Hi-
An old horn in Eb that is High Pitch (HP) will sound almost in E....

mark

Re: 2 Helicons; Mahillon Eb and Buescher (key?)

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:33 pm
by SousaSaver
I work in a shop that deals in vintage and antique instruments, so I get to hear this about once a week:

HP - High Pitch A=457
LP - Low Pitch A=435

1919 - All countries that participate in the Treaty of Versailles adopt A=440 as standard pitch and production of High Pitch instruments tapers off at that point until they are no longer produced. BUT that being said, some European Orchestras(correct me if I am wrong) tune to A=442.

Oh boy, WAY more than you'd ever want to know about that...

This critter looks to be in Eb. The length of the valve circuits, especially the 3rd, demonstrate this.

Re: 2 Helicons; Mahillon Eb and Buescher (key?)

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:39 pm
by Mike-ICR
i don't mean to argue, but....

High pitch: A=457
Low pitch: A=435
Standard pitch: A=440

Re: 2 Helicons; Mahillon Eb and Buescher (key?)

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:44 pm
by SousaSaver
Touche sir. You aren't arguing, you are correcting my simple error AND you are right.

Thanks for keeping me on my toes.