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Re: Tornister tuba BBb

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:45 pm
by SousaSaver
I would be suspicious about the sound quality of such an instrument. I has such a small bore and a small bell flare. Not many people have experience with these. Also, does it play in modern pitch (A=440)? Can you use it with an ensemble or have you just spent 6500 on a collectors item.

Not trying to shoo people away from this horn, just a few thoughts.

(Just my opinions, I could be wrong)

Re: Tornister tuba BBb

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:54 am
by k001k47
BRSousa wrote: or have you just spent 6500 on a collectors item. )

Man, but it does look like a cool novelty horn

Re: Tornister tuba BBb

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:59 am
by Wyvern
It no doubt plays in modern pitch as it is only one year old, not vintage version.

For use playing, it is only slightly bigger than than MW14 travel tuba, so I would think sounds not so much different and have similar uses. Would be great as practice travel tuba for BBb player and might work in quintet and for certain orchestral works. Would not adequately support a concert band.

However the price is not much less than a new one from Bob Tucci shop, although it appears the one for sale is a special one not least in it has four valves, instead of three.

http://www.hornboerse.de/lshop,showrub, ... ni,,,,.htm

Re: Tornister tuba BBb

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:10 pm
by cjk
Does anybody know who actually made it?

Re: Tornister tuba BBb

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:17 pm
by The Big Ben
k001k47 wrote:
BRSousa wrote: or have you just spent 6500 on a collectors item. )

Man, but it does look like a cool novelty horn
I think the originals were made for army bands who were marching in the mountains. This would fit into a back pack nicely. I have seen a baritone horn this same size probably built for the same purpose.

*I* don't have $6500 for something like this but somebody out there does...

Re: Tornister tuba BBb

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:20 am
by pjv
Kiltie,

you mentioned seeing a Schmidt tornister at his shop. Did you try it out? How did play; great, stuffy, in tune, etc?

Being that ones ears are just above the bell-end, I can imagine that tornisters would be highly impractical. Playing a trombone can sometimes be a painful experience with the left ear so close to the bell. With a tornister you're right on top of it.

Enough speculating, please if you tried out the horn, tell us what you thought about it.

Cheers, Patrick

Re: Tornister tuba BBb

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 7:45 am
by pjv
Aha, now I understand.

I've been in situations we're I'd pump out a line or two on my sous in the stand and then go back to trombone. For this purpose the best position was to have the leadpipe/crook pointed a bit away from the "players position" and play the sous left handed standing more or less in front of the bell. Nice color effect for a minute of playtime but rather harsh on the ears.

If I'm not mistaken, the tornisters are/were made for the purpose of performing and are not necessarily a practice horn like the MW Travel's. I can think of many situations were it'd be practical, assuming it plays at a professional level. Looking at the Youtube posting; that guys ears are right in the firing range of the bell flare. I can't imagine playing an hour long that close to a bell at dynamics around the forte level. True, a tornisters forte isn't the same as my Jumbo's, but I bet it'd be enough to make ones teeth rattle, and certainly at close range. A bell-front might be a more humane option.

Of coarse, I'm still speculating. Thanks for the posting!

Cheers, Pat

Re: Tornister tuba BBb

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:21 pm
by RRW
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Re: Tornister tuba BBb

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:32 am
by RRW
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