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Is this a Miraphone 184 Clone?

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:24 pm
by b.williams
I was told by the seller that this is a Jinbao. I am thinking that this is a Miraphone 184 clone. Does anybody have any experience with this tuba?

http://cgi.ebay.com/C-tone-Tuba-Gold-la ... 7407419419" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Thank you in advance.

Re: Is this a Miraphone 184 Clone?

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:48 pm
by MikeMason
Nope.maybe a cerveny...

Re: Is this a Miraphone 184 Clone?

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:54 am
by Lingon
b.williams wrote:I was told by the seller that this is a Jinbao. I am thinking that this is a Miraphone 184 clone. Does anybody have any experience with this tuba?

http://cgi.ebay.com/C-tone-Tuba-Gold-la ... 7407419419" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Thank you in advance.
JBCB-400

Re: Is this a Miraphone 184 Clone?

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:49 am
by Wyvern
Yes, it is JBCB-400. I would recommend that if you want this model to order from Big Bottom Music, or MACK music in the USA - you do not want risk from seller in China as no way of sorting if there should be problems.

However this model has a reputation for poor intonation, so best to avoid. Much better to get the superb 5-valve JinBao JBCB-410 based on the 186

Re: Is this a Miraphone 184 Clone?

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:11 pm
by tubaforce
Hi!
Don't buy this unless you get it cheap! I'll sell you a new one for $100.00 over my actual cost. But you can't send it back! They blow rather easily, but have intonation issues requiring a good ear and an agile left hand!
Al :shock:

Re: Is this a Miraphone 184 Clone?

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:13 pm
by sousaphone68
I personally never trust eBay listings that use a cut and paste image from the supplier catalogue instead of a photo of the item that you will get in the post.

Re: Is this a Miraphone 184 Clone?

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:25 pm
by Wyvern
sousaphone68 wrote:I personally never trust eBay listings that use a cut and paste image from the supplier catalogue instead of a photo of the item that you will get in the post.
It means they either haven't actually got the item, or have never opened the box from the factory to ensure it in good working order. Either way, risky to buy particularly when it is being sold by someone unknown in Beijing!

Re: Is this a Miraphone 184 Clone?

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:44 am
by Lingon
tubaforce wrote:Hi!
Don't buy this unless you get it cheap! I'll sell you a new one for $100.00 over my actual cost. But you can't send it back! They blow rather easily, but have intonation issues requiring a good ear and an agile left hand!
Al :shock:
It is actually not that bad, but it is a challenge to play it in tune though. However, now when you guys have established a direct link to the maker why not take the opportunity to improve the model? The size is great and the basic sound is fine. So with a little tweaking it could be a great instrument. I beleive there is a market for a CC that size?!