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Key of B??

TubaTinker wrote:Key of B??

B is German for Bb!

H is B natural.

Is that the standard "lever" for the 5th valve (behind the tuba)?

PMeuph wrote:

TubaTinker wrote:Key of B??

B is German for Bb!

H is B natural.

There's no way this is a BBb tuba. THAT's what I was alluding to.

Besides... Es is German Eb. I figured Bs would be Bb.

From pictures I think that is F tuba, not Bb. The development of the pipes seems me too short for Bb tuba.

The seller mentions that but does not want to send outside of Germany (which also means it can't be shipped to Switzerland as well) so the perspective buyer will have to go and pick up the tuba in person.

That is a rather wide bell kranz. Bell Kranzes are cool.

It's a B&S F model Symphonie.
By the style of braces, it's older than the 1970s and more likely early 1960s.
Regarding the 5th valve linkage, it was(and still is) possible to order from B&S with either left or right hand/thumb or finger operated including triggers for the first slide etc.

Here's a picture of a "brand new" 1966 5valve version next to a mid 1970s 6valve.

The owner of both horns plays low Bb 1+2+4. He does have the longer 5th valve slides, but prefers the originals.
He also has a longer 3rd valve slide to give a modern 2+3 combination with 3rd alone. It's known as the Dresdener fingering system...
cheers
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