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Re: Possible CC candidate?
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:00 pm
by ASTuba
My guess is if Dillon Music is selling it, it wouldn't be a good candidate to switch to CC.
Re: Possible CC candidate?
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:10 am
by Frank Ortega
I have been to that generally, the Martins don't make good cuts for two reasons. They taper too fast and intonation is thrown off, and the Bell/bottom bows don't fit with King, York, or Holton BBb parts. I think they made very few 4/4 "Monster" size tubas in BBb. I happen to have one and it plays like a dream in BBb, so why cut it?
Just my two cents.
Re: Possible CC candidate?
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:22 am
by TheHatTuba
This one is in Eb, and most Dillon cuts seem to be BBb to CC conversions...
Re: Possible CC candidate?
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:45 pm
by Bob Kolada
Re: Possible CC candidate?
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:35 pm
by PMeuph
Doesn't Sam Gnagey use Eb bells and bows to make his CC tubas?
Re: Possible CC candidate?
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:14 pm
by Frank Ortega
Sorry for the wait, Kiltie. Here are some pics.
The 1925 Martin Renowned Before restoration:
After Restoration by Martin Wilk:
1931 Martin Mammoth:
I believe that Sam uses only King, York, and Holton Bells for his 4/4 projects. But his 6/4's have been Martins.
Also, the Martin renowned is more like a 5/4 instrument with some fatter bows and bell than the Kings, Holtons, and Yorks.
The original valve bore was .656, the replacment valves are King .687 bore. I think a .750 would work well on this instrument too.
Re: Possible CC candidate?
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:28 pm
by Bob Kolada
Cool horns! I remember seeing a front valve Martin euph on Ebay years ago- same square bottom bow, fairly big horn, went for 125. Damn!
Re: Possible CC candidate?
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:33 am
by Frank Ortega
Sorry, I gave that case to a friend with a Renowned EEb.
Re: Possible CC candidate?
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:43 am
by Frank Ortega
Well, Martin did make two sizes of EEb. A smaller model similar to the Conn professional or 11J models.
And the "Monster" size, which I beleive is the same bottom bow and bell.
-Frank
Re: Possible CC candidate?
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:12 pm
by J.c. Sherman
I want that body
Great Ebs!
J.c.S.
Re: Possible CC candidate?
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:14 pm
by opus37
According to the Martin sale literature, they have a Renowned Monster Eb with a 20" bell to give the sound of a BBb without having to learn new fingerings (assuming your an Eb player). Does that make you both kind of right?
