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Postby Tubaryan12 » Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:50 pm

Marzan BBb - 4 rotor, Blokepiece Imperial and Symphony
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Postby harold » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:57 pm

I'd pass - the fact that there are no bids at this point in the auction should tell you something.

This horn may be the exception, but I have never played a chopped York that worked as well as a CC than it did as a BBb.

I would also look CLOSELY at his past sales - he is asking for a cashier's check which provides you with much less protection than other payment options. This seller doesn't have a long track record yet.

I would be cautious - make sure to discuss any return policy with him up front. If he is a repair guy as he claims, he will probably give you some sort of trial period. I would also ask him for the names of some people that can vouch for him before you send him a lot of money.
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Postby bloke » Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:32 pm

I think if someone wanted a 52J, they'd be super-dumb not to buy this one (assuming the "Reserve" isn't more than 1K more than the starting bid).

- The 52J looks to be in super-nice shape.
- Just like the seller says, you get a huge bonus, and apparently (though, admittedly, I have no idea what their "Reserve" is) for nothing.

I think folks are being distracted by the York picture heading up the auction, and forgetting that what they are really bidding on is a 52J that is apparently in great shape plus the York body - which also accepts the 52J valve section.

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Postby Tubaryan12 » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:37 am

no,no,no...i wasnt interested in the purchase of the horn (btw...the tuba is less than 15 min from me so i could pick it up...remember...no ebay bashing :D ). The question was strictly for comments on the "chop" job and if what he did would make a good horn.
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Postby Dan Schultz » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:42 am

Tubaryan12 wrote:no,no,no...i wasnt interested in the purchase of the horn (btw...the tuba is less than 15 min from me so i could pick it up...


OK.... YOU go check it out and report to US!
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Postby Tubaryan12 » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:50 am

OK.... YOU go check it out and report to US!


Hey..if I knew anything about a good tuba would I ask you guys?...lol :lol: (Bracing himself for all kinds of cracks)
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Postby bloke » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:23 am

Tubaryan12 wrote:lol :lol:(Bracing himself for all kinds of cracks)


brace up! :shock:

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Postby harold » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:46 am

I stand by my earlier comment that I have never played a chopped York CC that plays as well as it did before it was cut.

There may be some out there, but I have never played one nor talked with anyone that has.
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Postby Guest » Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:55 am

Harold, that may be true, but unless he has about $15-20k in his pocket, he's not going to get a York CC that isn't cut.

In my opinion, this all depends on the cut job that the guy did. It looks like it was done well, but I can't say for certain without inspecting it up close. It may or may not be a good deal, depending on this factor. I also think that the silver on lacquer valveset looks tacky as well, and I'd want to get the whole thing replated.
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Postby Rick Denney » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:06 pm

harold wrote:I stand by my earlier comment that I have never played a chopped York CC that plays as well as it did before it was cut.

There may be some out there, but I have never played one nor talked with anyone that has.


Now you have. I've played two that Dave Fedderly sold over the last couple of years. Both were clearly superior to most of big tubas I've had the chance to try out in my life.

I didn't play them when they were BBb tubas, but I'll bet you a full Chinese feast they are better now. Before, they were battered school tubas with narrow bores and top-action valves, missing parts and with valve tubing that was kinked and ruined. Conversion to excellent grand orchestral tubas was a huge improvement, and the only thing that kept them from the scrap heap.

One reason my Holton was never cut is that it is too good as a BBb, and worth too much. It didn't make financial sense to turn it into a CC. The really good big BBb tubas in reasonable condition are worth too much as BBb tubas to be worth cutting. Only the otherwise unsalvageable instruments get cut, with only a few exceptions.

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