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Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:31 am
by toobagrowl
Just like the B&S 'Sonora' BBb. I like the fairly elaborate engraving on the bell.
Nothing spectacular, but should be a decent player:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crown-Tuba-Rota ... 1c2f638ee8


There is also another B&S-made 'Accent' tuba w/case, just like some of the older UMI-labeled 'Musica' BBb tubas. Should be a good player:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Accent-tuba-/25 ... 3a7db6e45e

Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:13 am
by Heavy_Metal
Add these two to the ever-growing list of known B&S stencils. We're pretty sure B&S made at least some of the Sanders horns:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=53412" target="_blank

and here's the much-earlier B&S discussion I linked to in that thread:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=43102&hilit=cold+war+tubas" target="_blank

So far we have, to my knowledge (list updated 6-28-18):

Accent
Bach
Carl Wunderlich
Conn International
Courtois
Crown
Forza
Gerhard Schneider
Giardinelli
Hans Mueller
Hanstone
Hilgers
Karl Zeiss (or Ziess)
König
Lamar
L'Rae
Mercedes
Musica
Otto Weimar
Sanders
Schmidt (F.)
Sonora
Vespro
VMI
Walter Kroner
Weltklang

Any others?

Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:30 pm
by toobagrowl
Thanks.

Heavy_Metal wrote: So far we have, to my knowledge:

Accent
Carl Wunderlich
Crown
Gerhard Schneider
Karl Zeiss
König
Musica
Otto Weimar
Sanders
Sonora
VMI
Walter Kroner

Any others?
Add 'Giardinelli' and 'Bach' to the list. :wink: They are 4/4 rotary BBb tubas. Probably others as well. It can be confusing because some of those brands are made by two or more manufacturers.

Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:10 pm
by Michael Bush
There is a "Mercedes' stencil. Not the Bach one, obviously. I've got a picture of one around here someplace...

Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:31 pm
by Heavy_Metal
Updated, thanks.

Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:55 am
by ArnoldGottlieb
Weltklang.
Had 2 when I lived in Dresden. Would still have them if I had cases.

Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:16 am
by Heavy_Metal
Thanks- don't know how I missed that, since it appears in one of the threads I referenced.... :oops:

BTW, the Crown has been relisted with a price drop. Someone please buy this tuba!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crown-Tuba-Rota ... 1c30155140" target="_blank

Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:32 pm
by imperialbari
Conn International by B&S/Weltklang?

Weren't they by the Austran maker, that later on named the same models Musica?

Klaus

Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:20 pm
by Cthuba
My friend actually had a b&s stencil of a pt606 labeled on the bell courtois.

Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:57 pm
by Heavy_Metal
Got it, thanks.

Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:04 pm
by Heavy_Metal
imperialbari wrote:Conn International by B&S/Weltklang?

Weren't they by the Austran maker, that later on named the same models Musica?

Klaus
Some of them might have been. As has been stated elsewhere, it's almost impossible to trademark something like "Musica", so if the same importer wasn't buying from different sources, another importer might have grabbed the name.

But we actually did see pics of a "Conn International" that came from B&S. The Craigslist post is gone, but here is our thread:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59862&p=500901" target="_blank