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3/4 BBb Miraphone 4-valve, tell me more?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:13 pm
by sticky_valve
Hi all,
Can anyone tell me more about the model Miraphone listed here for sale?
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/harper-c ... 1014247476
I'm waiting on the seller to provide a model number as I can not quite make it out on the pictures. I'd go and see it but its about 1200km away from home.
Re: 3/4 BBb Miraphone 4-valve, tell me more?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:51 pm
by Dan Schultz
The seller may not know the model number. Ask them to measure the bell diameter.
Subtract the fraction first...
13" = 183 (which it is not since the 183 is an Eb tuba)
14" = 184
15" = 185
16" = 186
(Not totally reliable but sort of a quick gauge)
I agree with Joe... with regard to other stuff in the images, I'd say it's a 184.
Re: 3/4 BBb Miraphone 4-valve, tell me more?
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 1:52 am
by tofu
The two guys above know far more than me about this - but I would agree it looks like a 184 mid to late 70's vintage. It's not a 183 or 186. The bell taper looks much faster/skinnier than a 185 and 185 BBb are very rare. Always hard to tell from pictures and without playing but it looks like a good buy at 1500 if it plays well and is in reasonable shape.
Re: 3/4 BBb Miraphone 4-valve, tell me more?
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:49 am
by sticky_valve
Thank you all for the info.
They are good!
The seller got back to me with dimensions, 36cm for the bell diameter which is about 14 inches, so likely it is a 184. It is also 102cm tall (40").
The seller also advised that he emailed Miraphone previously hoping they could advise the model number by providing them with the setrial number only. They could said they no longer had detailed records but dated the horn as being made in 1978 and would need pics and measurements to determine the model.
Thanks again.
Re: 3/4 BBb Miraphone 4-valve, tell me more?
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 9:40 am
by Dan Schultz
sticky_valve wrote:.... The seller got back to me with dimensions, 36cm for the bell diameter which is about 14 inches, so likely it is a 184. It is also 102cm tall (40")....
The bore through the valves of a 184 is .708" (18mm) if you want to further validate the horn.
Re: 3/4 BBb Miraphone 4-valve, tell me more?
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:11 am
by sticky_valve
The seller got back tom with a response from Miraphone after he sent them the measurements.
They advised it is a an "84A" and described it as a "Half Size" Tuba.
If it was closer to home I would go and see this one.
Thanks again for the posts.