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I wonder if that's as many times as he could stand to play it?

I never knew that M&M had practically copied the Miraphone pyramid (triangle)
That is going a bit too far IMHO

Ian, I wasn't bashing anyone.......
Look, it's no secret that Jinbao's first attempt at a 6 rotor F tuba,
was a complete turd & I was just poking a little fun at that. Not
that it is any fault of the sellers such as M&M, Mack Brass, Wessex,
Jim Laabs & any others who sell Jinbao instruments.
Also I had never seen the M&M logo before & merely observed that
it was almost identical to the Miraphone one.......that's it, no "bashing"