Bass clef trombone

[Chuck(G)]

Not eBay exactly but funny enough:

http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com ... cview=0x23

Ya gotta watch out for those trombones that are shipped without concert C!

[Kevin Hendrick]

Not eBay exactly but funny enough:

http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com ... cview=0x23

Ya gotta watch out for those trombones that are shipped without concert C!

That would be dys-concert-ing!

Odd that the seller says it's in bass clef -- you'd think a tenor trombone could play in tenor clef (maybe that costs more?)

[Teubonium]

Ya gotta watch out for those trombones that are shipped without concert C!

Would those be the ones without the C attachment?

[Dan Schultz]

Would those be the ones without the C attachment?

Sometimes when we think we're making a joke, the joke already exists in 3D. Here's a Yamaha 350C trombone. It's a "C" trombone, but plays like a "Bb" trombone - because the "C"-attachment (yep!) is "default inline". When one depresses the trigger, it takes away the loop, shortening the instrument to "C" (to give the player some of the same benefits of an F-attachment - 1st/2nd position C & B natural).

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Joe... would that result in a trombone like some of the old 'Preacher' models that were produced to allow a player to read treble clef from a church hymnal?

[Chuck(G)]

According to the Yamaha webstie:

Ascending Bb / C rotor
The rotor allows the player to use alternate positions without having to reach extended slide positions.

http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/Con ... 00,00.html

[ThomasDodd]

Joe... would that result in a trombone like some of the old 'Preacher' models that were produced to allow a player to read treble clef from a church hymnal?

Trombones aren't transposing instruments. Why would you need a trigger to play treble clef? Am I missing something?

Perhaps you're playing with trumpets who don't want to transpose? So the see a C
but play a Bb. You see a C and play a C. Problem. So instead of bothering with transposing, use a whole step valve (puting the horn in Ab?). Not when you play a "C" in 6th position it sounds Bb, and matches the trumpets when they play a C.

[Kevin Hendrick]

Joe... would that result in a trombone like some of the old 'Preacher' models that were produced to allow a player to read treble clef from a church hymnal?

mmm....I may be wrong...(Yes, they are quite similar but) my understanding is that the old Conn "Preacher" model had a regular "descending" whole-step rotor attachment, and that it played in C as its "default".

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you turned the rotor's "open position" 90º (via a differently-keyed rotor arm, perhaps), wouldn't that change it from one to the other? Granted, that's a non-trivial task for most instrument owners, but it wouldn't be difficult for a machine shop, and easier yet for an instrument manufacturing company ...