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Bass clef trombone
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:59 pm
by Chuck(G)
Not eBay exactly but funny enough:
http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com ... cview=0x23
Ya gotta watch out for those trombones that are shipped
without concert C!
Re: Bass clef trombone
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 5:45 pm
by Kevin Hendrick
That
would be dys-concert-ing!
Odd that the seller says it's in bass clef -- you'd think a
tenor trombone could play in
tenor clef (maybe that costs more?)
Re: Bass clef trombone
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:27 pm
by Teubonium
Chuck(G) wrote:
Ya gotta watch out for those trombones that are shipped
without concert C!
Would those be the ones
without the
C attachment?
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:38 pm
by Dan Schultz
bloke wrote:Teubonium wrote:Would those be the ones
without the
C attachment?
Sometimes when we
think we're making a joke, the joke already exists in 3D. Here's a
Yamaha 350C trombone. It's a "C" trombone, but plays like a "Bb" trombone - because the "C"-attachment (
yep!) is "default inline". When one depresses the trigger, it takes
away the loop,
shortening the instrument to "C" (to give the player some of the same benefits of an
F-attachment - 1st/2nd position C & B natural).
"<img src="
http://images.misupply.com/products/ori ... 0C1000.jpg" WIDTH="500">
Joe... would that result in a trombone like some of the old 'Preacher' models that were produced to allow a player to read treble clef from a church hymnal?
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:01 pm
by Chuck(G)
According to the Yamaha webstie:
Ascending Bb / C rotor
The rotor allows the player to use alternate positions without having to reach extended slide positions.
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/Con ... 00,00.html
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:57 pm
by ThomasDodd
wnazzaro wrote:TubaTinker wrote:Joe... would that result in a trombone like some of the old 'Preacher' models that were produced to allow a player to read treble clef from a church hymnal?
Trombones aren't transposing instruments. Why would you need a trigger to play treble clef? Am I missing something?
Perhaps you're playing with trumpets who don't want to transpose? So the see a C
but play a Bb. You see a C and play a C. Problem. So instead of bothering with transposing, use a whole step valve (puting the horn in Ab?). Not when you play a "C" in 6th position it sounds Bb, and matches the trumpets when they play a C.
One extra part ...
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:16 pm
by Kevin Hendrick
bloke wrote:Joe... would that result in a trombone like some of the old 'Preacher' models that were produced to allow a player to read treble clef from a church hymnal?
mmm....I may be wrong...(Yes, they are
quite similar but) my understanding is that the old Conn "Preacher" model had a regular "descending" whole-step rotor attachment, and that it played in C as its "default".
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you turned the rotor's "open position" 90º (via a differently-keyed rotor arm, perhaps), wouldn't that change it from one to the other? Granted, that's a non-trivial task for most instrument owners, but it wouldn't be difficult for a machine shop, and easier yet for an instrument manufacturing company ...
