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Someone Please Enlighten Me

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 11:09 pm
by Dan Schultz

Re: Someone Please Enlighten Me

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 11:25 pm
by windshieldbug
"The tubas I have for sale are made in China. The last allotment of instruments I bought were supplying a short lived music program that failed because of bad politics."

Re: Someone Please Enlighten Me

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:01 am
by Donn
From all of this the music industry “Gray Zone” was born. It works like this: You can bring instruments in to the U.S, do what you feel it needs to be completed, or you can have your American technicians put hours of “set up time” into it. A good example of this is the baritone saxophone. These instruments need a lot of time to be set up right! Now this imported instrument is arguably “MADE IN THE USA” with no one to govern by percentage of tech time of what constitutes where it’s made. Another example is you can pay 2,000 U.S dollars to buy a very prestigious clarinet from Europe where its keys are made in China. Some big name instruments companies took advantage of this “gray zone” for a long time.
I don't know about the "Gray Zone" described there, but I understand "grey market" to refer to a slightly different phenomenon, that's a consequence of manufacturers trying to sell their wares at high price points in certain countries. An independent will then import them from somewhere they can be bought cheaper, and undercut the manufacturer's exports. Possibly without warranty support etc., if that follows the official import channel.

I don't have any reason to think there was any such issue with mainland instruments, and it isn't particularly what the auction text seems to be describing, but it's an interesting coincidence.

Re: Someone Please Enlighten Me

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 2:47 am
by greenbean
I am pretty familiar with prestigious clarinets from Europe. I am quite sure none of them have Chinese-made keys...

Re: Someone Please Enlighten Me

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 10:06 am
by Dan Schultz
Who manufactured this horn and what is it a copy of?

Re: Someone Please Enlighten Me

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:42 pm
by MackBrass
TubaTinker wrote:Who manufactured this horn and what is it a copy of?
This is the JBBB520 made by JinBao, we just discontinued it and replaced it with the JBBB300. They are OK tubas but i wanted something that responded better and had better focus.

Re: Someone Please Enlighten Me

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 2:58 pm
by Dan Schultz
mctuba1 wrote:
TubaTinker wrote:Who manufactured this horn and what is it a copy of?
This is the JBBB520 made by JinBao, we just discontinued it and replaced it with the JBBB300. They are OK tubas but i wanted something that responded better and had better focus.
Thanks, Tom. Should I buy a couple for parts?

Re: Someone Please Enlighten Me

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:35 am
by MackBrass
TubaTinker wrote:
mctuba1 wrote:
TubaTinker wrote:Who manufactured this horn and what is it a copy of?
This is the JBBB520 made by JinBao, we just discontinued it and replaced it with the JBBB300. They are OK tubas but i wanted something that responded better and had better focus.
Thanks, Tom. Should I buy a couple for parts?
I am sure you could with your talents.