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Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:33 pm
by bisontuba
Someone will get a very good deal....
Mark

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:54 pm
by Heavy_Metal
Cerveny?

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:10 pm
by bisontuba
Anybody here buy this horn?

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:26 am
by emcallaway
Quite possibly this is a land line. They did specify that you should call... :oops:

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:22 pm
by bisontuba
Hi-
I just called the number. Spoke to a very nice older gentleman who due to age/health, can't continue to play the tuba. It is his horn. Horn does indeed play AND it is still available!! If I lived close to NYC, I would go over and get it!
Good luck!
Mark

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:01 pm
by bort
bisontuba wrote:Spoke to a very nice older gentleman who due to age/health, can't continue to play the tuba. It is his horn.
If I were interested (and I'm not), and assuming it's in good playing condition, I would offer him more than his asking price.

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:15 am
by MikeMason
Would probably be a killer horn for 1000. Drop 500 with Matt Walters to service/tweak.

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:23 am
by bort
MikeMason wrote:Would probably be a killer horn for 1000. Drop 500 with Matt Walters to service/tweak.
But if you call Matt in July with a big project like this, be prepared to WAIT! :D

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:08 am
by sugawi
Received tuba today. Got some damage in transport but it plays amazing! I'm not your pro player, just easy Dixieland and oompah type of playing but I haven't played anything that's so free blowing and slots so easy. Engraving states: Kalashen's Kaiser Model New York 1940. Assuming that's serial number that should placed it before 1905. Not sure where this website takes its estimates but that's where I got serial and years estimates: http://simonettitubacollection.com/inst ... /kalashen/

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:10 am
by bort
Yeah! Congrats on this cool find! I had wondered who ended up with it.

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:17 am
by sugawi
Thank you to OP who always finds something cool, it's usually out if my reach but since this one was so cheap I decided to take a risk and buy it unseen.
Who's the maker of this one? Cerveny, B&F?

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:55 am
by Steve Marcus
Congrats!

How tall is it and how wide is the bell?

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:48 am
by sugawi
Steve Marcus wrote:Congrats!

How tall is it and how wide is the bell?
41" tall and 18" bell.

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:08 am
by bisontuba
sugawi wrote:Received tuba today. Got some damage in transport but it plays amazing! I'm not your pro player, just easy Dixieland and oompah type of playing but I haven't played anything that's so free blowing and slots so easy. Engraving states: Kalashen's Kaiser Model New York 1940. Assuming that's serial number that should placed it before 1905. Not sure where this website takes its estimates but that's where I got serial and years estimates: http://simonettitubacollection.com/inst ... /kalashen/
Nice!!

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:53 pm
by sugawi
It has some things that would need to be addressed and here are some photos. Any suggestions on possible rotor action assembly replacement? Rotors look like it's from the early 1900's, bell has some tears.


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Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:00 pm
by sugawi
Has interesting lyre holder design, water key and first slide wrap around, any guess on a maker?
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Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:24 pm
by bort
Take it to a reputable shop, set a budget, and have as much done as possible. Always start with a cleaning and go from there.

If you do decide to replace the valve linkages, have it done right, and don't slap on some cheap Chinese parts. Hopefully the bell isn't too bad, and there is still a lot of life left in this old tuba!

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:25 pm
by sugawi
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To me looks similar to the one on the left:
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Taken from B&F section here:
http://www.schneideruwe.de/tubamuseum.html

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:14 am
by sugawi
GregTuba79 wrote:That thing is awesome, does it play really "woofy" though? I know from seeing different Kaiser's playing in person and Youtube because of that huge .855 ish bore they have more of a dark rumble than their smaller B flat counterparts.
I guess that's what the most fascinating to me about this tuba. I had 4/4 size Miraphones, Cervenys but this loud woofy dark rumble is something I've been looking for all my life :D

Re: Long Island CL: "Kaiser" Tuba

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:54 am
by humBell
sugawi wrote:
GregTuba79 wrote:That thing is awesome, does it play really "woofy" though? I know from seeing different Kaiser's playing in person and Youtube because of that huge .855 ish bore they have more of a dark rumble than their smaller B flat counterparts.
I guess that's what the most fascinating to me about this tuba. I had 4/4 size Miraphones, Cervenys but this loud woofy dark rumble is something I've been looking for all my life :D
Congratulations on a really nice find!

The springs are fascinating. It looks like it has the gears for the thumbscrew adjustable clock springs, but thumb screws are gone and someone has squeezed in more ordinary springs to serve. And yeah, the compressed spring for water key is unusual too!

That instrument has a lot of character.

Play your heart out on it!

And thanks for posting the schneideruwe.de link, as it might prove useful to me!