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upside down rotors

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:43 pm
by Donn
A few miles east of Portland, Older 4 valve rotary tuba.

Valves seen from the back:
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Re: upside down rotors

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:48 pm
by bort
An old Sander tuba, at a VERY low price.

Just like Sam Gnagey's, but his is in CC.

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Re: upside down rotors

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:11 pm
by Donn
Well ... many visible similarities to Sam Gnagey's, but more than enough differences to easily account for the 4x price difference!

Re: upside down rotors

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:27 pm
by bort
Donn wrote:Well ... many visible similarities to Sam Gnagey's, but more than enough differences to easily account for the 4x price difference!
I see a few dents on the BBb... what else?

Re: upside down rotors

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:49 pm
by Donn
- it's really battered - dents, there's something missing from one of the valve spindles.
- it really isn't the same model at all - for example, could be just the photography but the bell shapes look different to me
- it's coming from someone unknown to me, vs. Sam Gnagey whose appraisal of a tuba counts for something.

It depends on why you'd buy something like that, and I suppose motivations are very diverse and in many cases hard for me to understand. The ideal buyer in each case is someone who appreciates the opportunity to play a very old and unusual tuba, but probably very different people - I could picture that Oregon tuba ending up in a little band that travels around the western US and Canada in a little school bus, with an accordion and a musical saw among other instruments.

Re: upside down rotors

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:56 pm
by bort
Donn wrote:- it's really battered - dents, there's something missing from one of the valve spindles.
- it really isn't the same model at all - for example, could be just the photography but the bell shapes look different to me
- it's coming from someone unknown to me, vs. Sam Gnagey whose appraisal of a tuba counts for something.

It depends on why you'd buy something like that, and I suppose motivations are very diverse and in many cases hard for me to understand. The ideal buyer in each case is someone who appreciates the opportunity to play a very old and unusual tuba, but probably very different people - I could picture that Oregon tuba ending up in a little band that travels around the western US and Canada in a little school bus, with an accordion and a musical saw among other instruments.
I've highlighted the most important part. The other stuff is valid, but it doesn't seem that bad to me, all the "big stuff" seems in pretty good shape. Let's face it, it's a tuba for $900, and it's (at least) $900 worth of tuba. Beyond that... who knows. Very cool, nonetheless.

Re: upside down rotors

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:28 pm
by Mikelynch
It is definitely a Sanders, with that valve and slide configuration.

FWIW--if anyone in the area is interested, that is worth buying, regardless of the other defects.

If it were in Austin, I would have bought it before posting this reply. :-)

Mike

Re: upside down rotors

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:14 am
by The Big Ben
Sam Gnagey's horn he's selling/sold in the linked post has the 4th valve equal to 2+3 rather than 1+3. Wonder if this Orygun tuba-like object is the same. I'd have to play it to see what it was like but, at times, different is good.

Re: upside down rotors

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:08 am
by edsel585960
If it wasn't 4500 miles away I'd buy it. :tuba:

Re: upside down rotors

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:49 pm
by Bob Bigalard
My tuba teacher is selling this tuba. If you are interested, I highly reccomend going put there and trying it out. He is a great guy and he knows his tubas! I actually asked him about this particular horn. He does not know what brand it is, even after consulting several other "tuba experts." If you guys think it is a Sanders, I will tell him next week at my lesson.

Re: upside down rotors

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:39 pm
by Sam Gnagey
Bob Bigalard wrote:My tuba teacher is selling this tuba. If you are interested, I highly reccomend going put there and trying it out. He is a great guy and he knows his tubas! I actually asked him about this particular horn. He does not know what brand it is, even after consulting several other "tuba experts." If you guys think it is a Sanders, I will tell him next week at my lesson.
It is most assuredly a Sander, not Sanders. There may be a very faint name stamped on the bell.