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4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby edsel585960 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:50 pm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1936-Martin-4-v ... 2358803796 I know these don't turn up every day, but $8500. :shock:
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby kmorgancraw » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:17 pm

Yeah, cut that in half and you'd almost be there...But you never know maybe he'll find somebody crazy enough.
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby saxophyte » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:59 pm

not original lacquer
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby Kirley » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:20 pm

This part from the description is interesting:
"It will also include a 20inch upright bell made by Kanstul and engraved to exact standards to match the original engraving of the bell front."

Still, not even close to a reasonable price. But I do like that first valve slide ring.
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby thejester10276 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:16 am

Same seller as that huttl tuba, the "once in a lifetime buy" tuba... :roll:
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby EdFirth » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:34 pm

This Martin came to Central Florida via Ebay from Vince Giordano(Cotton Club Boardwalk Empire) about 10 years ago purchased by the same guy who bought that big Huttl(not the seller). I played it quite a bit and had the first valve tuner that Dick Akright(Best Music in Oakland) built for a York I used to own put on it. With sewing machine oil on the valves it's a killer. I believe that the straight leadpipe was a later custom thing, they usually have a short leadpipe and require two bits, but it works great and I found it very comfortable to sit with. The pitch is good and you just don't see these for sale. I've also never seen one with that big of a bell front but it does match the horn. I, until quite recently, was considering trying to get it back, get a valve job, and riding off into the sunset but I guess I'll just have to make do with my 3 valve. It's a really nice horn and I hope it finds a new owner. Ed
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby The Big Ben » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:24 pm

edsel585960 wrote:http://www.ebay.com/itm/1936-Martin-4-valve-top-action-Tuba-26inch-Bell-front-plus-20-inch-upright-bell/172538094141?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D1869453a298f4deab7439fbf8e427236%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D122358803796" target="_blank I know these don't turn up every day, but $8500. :shock:


$8900 with 'flat rate shipping'
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby KiltieTuba » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:00 pm

EdFirth wrote:This Martin came to Central Florida via Ebay from Vince Giordano(Cotton Club Boardwalk Empire) about 10 years ago purchased by the same guy who bought that big Huttl(not the seller). I played it quite a bit and had the first valve tuner that Dick Akright(Best Music in Oakland) built for a York I used to own put on it. With sewing machine oil on the valves it's a killer. I believe that the straight leadpipe was a later custom thing, they usually have a short leadpipe and require two bits, but it works great and I found it very comfortable to sit with. The pitch is good and you just don't see these for sale. I've also never seen one with that big of a bell front but it does match the horn. I, until quite recently, was considering trying to get it back, get a valve job, and riding off into the sunset but I guess I'll just have to make do with my 3 valve. It's a really nice horn and I hope it finds a new owner. Ed


One of those old Martins was on eBay (or craigslist) a few years back that had a 28" or 30" recording bell.
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby kmorgancraw » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:13 pm

Needs a valve job as well? This hulk isn't worth more than $2500 max. At $8500 it would be the buy of a lifetime, a lifetime of regret.
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby hrender » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:31 pm

Beautiful horn, but the price is highly optimistic.
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby lost » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:48 pm

Optimistic 2500 for a rare 4 valve martin that needs a valve overhaul. 1000 optimistic for the extra bell. That's 3500 you would wanna get..... but the ebay fee added on at the buyer's cost would put it up to 4k. Add in coolness factor to a named tuba player in some ensembles of note, plus extra modifications, and I think 4500 would be top of the world I would pay if I wanted another Martin (which I don't) and had that change (which I don't).
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby Kirley » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:12 pm

They added pics of the Kanstul bell. Nice!
The hand engraving is awesome.
There also pics of the homebrew cases.

Lost, I like your economic analysis of the horn. But I doubt they'll see even that much for the horn.
If it already had the valve job done, I could see $3500.
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby Michael Bush » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:42 pm

Relisted.

$400 for shipping. Are you kidding me? Have you ever had to pay $400 for shipping a tuba? I have shipped fewer than some but more than most, and have never had to come anywhere near that neighborhood. Even with two bells, that is ridiculous.
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby Donn » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:29 pm

Who's your freight carrier? Did you pay for a full pallet? It would be great to get more information here, from people who've done this.
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby KiltieTuba » Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:55 pm

I've shipped sousaphones and tuba in large boxes (like the usual giant Miraphone box) through FedEx, UPS, USPS, Greyhound, and Amtrak. The most I think I've paid was $250 - but that was only one box. The case I purchased for my sousaphone (and the subsequent misfitting and inability to return it to the manufacturer) cost me about $250 on a pallet through a regional trucking company.

Not sure how much it be would to ship those cases (presumably packed in boxes or strapped to pallets) with instruments inside. I think the seller is using a common carrier and it's charging by weight and size - hence the high price.
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Re: 4 Valve Martin on Ebay

Postby Donn » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:59 am

KiltieTuba wrote:I think the seller is using a common carrier


Just to save anyone else the trouble, who might have to look that up, I found that truckers are common carriers (or can be, anyway), and UPS and Fedex Freight hold operating authority as motor common carriers. But not UPS or Fedex parcel services. I had the same impression of what "flat rate freight" means - "Truck freight."

I don't know if the usual advice to pack the tuba and case separately, applies so much to this kind of detachable bell scenario, but that would make a pretty big pile.
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