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Sure this is a King?

Postby Heavy_Metal » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:13 am

looks like a Besson with a King bell................ ... Sw4A5Yv0wW
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Re: Sure this is a King?

Postby KiltieTuba » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:25 am

I don't know ... looks like it could be an ultra-rare prototype King...
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Re: Sure this is a King?

Postby edsel585960 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:32 am

Looks like a Besson to me. Mismatched bell.
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Re: Sure this is a King?

Postby TheGoyWonder » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:28 pm

hmm so a King 19" or 22" upright bell could salvage one of these monstrosities?
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Re: Sure this is a King?

Postby arpthark » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:39 pm

An aside: from an aesthetic standpoint, bell front Besson BBbs are just about the ugliest, gangliest things I've ever seen.
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Re: Sure this is a King?

Postby bloke » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:51 pm

I wouldn't have noticed, but I believe you are correct, and that it is a 22" King bell rather than a 24" Besson bell. The tenons are the same size.

I have a "box-o-parts" to build a 3+1 compensating one of these...or an upright bell version.

:arrow: I'm going to restore/build the recording bell version, though.

I've grown accustomed to the "so ugly they're pretty" appearance of these recording bell BBb Bessons, they are VERY powerful, sound VERY good, play VERY well in tune (except for a sharp Eb in the staff, which can be fixed by adding the 4th valve), and are perfect for outdoor gigs (such as July 4th patriotic orchestra gigs) with no shell - yet a powerful bass sound expected.

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