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Martin CC at BBC
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:22 pm
by bort
Neat looking horn at BBC. Not personally interested, but sure it won't last long!
A used Martin 4V CC tuba in lacquer finish. This instrument was cut down from BBb to CC and has a nice rich sound. Some repair investment could really make this horn great! Used, no case. $1,995.00
Re: Martin CC at BBC
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:35 pm
by Ken Crawford
Somebody went to the trouble of cutting it to CC but didn't add a fifth valve? Oh well...For the price I'm sure somebody will be willing to roll the dice.
Re: Martin CC at BBC
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:13 pm
by Tubajug
I didn't realize Martin even made rotary horns. Looks cool!
Re: Martin CC at BBC
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:30 pm
by roweenie
Re: Martin CC at BBC
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:00 am
by bort
Tubajug wrote:I didn't realize Martin even made rotary horns. Looks cool!
Not many, that's for sure!
Re: Martin CC at BBC
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:27 am
by joshealejo
That THING looks Amazing!!!
Re: Martin CC at BBC
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:06 am
by joshealejo
Ok That THING looks even better!
Re: Martin CC at BBC
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:35 am
by Mikelynch
This is Jay McAllister's former instrument that gets asked about periodically on TN, usually in reference to either the Sauter Finnegan video on YouTube, or the Tower Chamber Brass LP.
Re: Martin CC at BBC
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:34 pm
by Tom Coffey
It looks to me like a Cerveny valveset, like the old King rotary tubas had, and exactly like the set on my 1970's era Piggy. King put very long elegant paddles on them; Cerveny supplied at least some, like my horn, with the "s" shaped linkages shown on this Martin, and paddles with large finger pads, which had a stubby quality, not like the old Kings.
I have always been surprised at the oft-expressed desire to modernize or change these valve linkages, and, to tell the truth, with the fascination with valves in general. Rotary with string linkages, rotary with mechanical linkages of various varieties, piston valves with various port shapes, etc. all play somewhat the same. I currently own at least one example of all of these, and it does not require any special training to operate any of them.
Roger Bobo played Carnival of Venice with Rotary Valves, Bill Bell was famous for intuiting and using creative alternate fingerings to get around bad intonation, Arnold Jacobs made a career on a piston valve tuba produced by York Band Instrument Company. To me, the mashing down of various valves is a cool but mechanical incident of great playing. After years of being interested in brass music and the instruments involved in making it, and playing and owning a big bunch of them, I find myself feeling respectful of the history and manufacturing, and pretty unwilling to change it much on a given horn. Instead, I am trying to emulate Mr. Bell and learn to play any horn well "as found."
YMMV, of course...
Re: Martin CC at BBC
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:10 pm
by EdFirth
I just went to youtube, typed in Sauter Finnegan, and the first tune was "Midnight Sleighride" with Jay and this Martin. Might be worth a listen. Ed
Re: Martin CC at BBC
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:40 pm
by Tabor
COOL!
This one has a bar of exposed tuba playing at the 2:30 mark:
https://youtu.be/87bIc6Vls1c
Re: Martin CC at BBC
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:05 pm
by Michael Bush
Very cool.