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Sanders Imperial- needs thumb ring

Postby Heavy_Metal » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:45 pm

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Re: Sanders Imperial- needs thumb ring

Postby TheGoyWonder » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:57 pm

or the Made in Chyna edition. Not certain but I'd put my money on that.
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Re: Sanders Imperial- needs thumb ring

Postby Minkrott » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:55 pm

I had a Sanders Imperial. "Made in china" was stamped on the linkage bar. Lousy lacquer but played and sounded ok. This one is missing a rotor cap and the first valve is separated from the second valve, in addition to the thumb ring. Repairman's special.
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Re: Sanders Imperial- needs thumb ring

Postby Dan Schultz » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:56 pm

If the horn is branded Sanders 'Imperial'.... it was made in China. Sanders in recent years (since maybe 1970) is/was the house brand of Custom Music International. Their earlier Sanders line was indeed made my B & S/VMI. Maybe some of their earlier 'stencils' from Amati/Cerveny. I think they did a very good job of keeping up the quality standard even though the 'Imperial' tubas were Chinese.
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Re: Sanders Imperial- needs thumb ring

Postby kontrabasstuba » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:34 am

Rudi Meinl in germany has the same thump rings on his tubas. You can order it by himself. No problem..
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Re: Sanders Imperial- needs thumb ring

Postby Mark Finley » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:37 am

Or....

Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/332299578950
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Re: Sanders Imperial- needs thumb ring

Postby kontrabasstuba » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:42 am

Yes, that's a B&S one
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Re: Sanders Imperial- needs thumb ring

Postby Gus_Pratt » Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:07 am

Dan Schultz wrote:If the horn is branded Sanders 'Imperial'.... it was made in China. Sanders in recent years (since maybe 1970) is/was the house brand of Custom Music International. Their earlier Sanders line was indeed made my B & S/VMI. Maybe some of their earlier 'stencils' from Amati/Cerveny. I think they did a very good job of keeping up the quality standard even though the 'Imperial' tubas were Chinese.


I bought this Sanders Imperial. I find it interesting that the one I bought has nickel-silver slide tubes; but the one mentioned in this post has brass slide tubes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bb-Tuba-4-Valve ... true&rt=nc
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Re: Sanders Imperial- needs thumb ring

Postby Dan Schultz » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:27 pm

Gus_Pratt wrote:
Dan Schultz wrote:If the horn is branded Sanders 'Imperial'.... it was made in China. Sanders in recent years (since maybe 1970) is/was the house brand of Custom Music International. Their earlier Sanders line was indeed made my B & S/VMI. Maybe some of their earlier 'stencils' from Amati/Cerveny. I think they did a very good job of keeping up the quality standard even though the 'Imperial' tubas were Chinese.


I bought this Sanders Imperial. I find it interesting that the one I bought has nickel-silver slide tubes; but the one mentioned in this post has brass slide tubes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bb-Tuba-4-Valve ... true&rt=nc" target="_blank


The link you posted IS NOT a Sanders 'Imperial' but a bona-fide B & S/VMI 'stencil'.
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Re: Sanders Imperial- needs thumb ring

Postby Gus_Pratt » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:48 pm

Dan Schultz wrote:
Gus_Pratt wrote:
Dan Schultz wrote:If the horn is branded Sanders 'Imperial'.... it was made in China. Sanders in recent years (since maybe 1970) is/was the house brand of Custom Music International. Their earlier Sanders line was indeed made my B & S/VMI. Maybe some of their earlier 'stencils' from Amati/Cerveny. I think they did a very good job of keeping up the quality standard even though the 'Imperial' tubas were Chinese.


I bought this Sanders Imperial. I find it interesting that the one I bought has nickel-silver slide tubes; but the one mentioned in this post has brass slide tubes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bb-Tuba-4-Valve ... true&rt=nc" target="_blank" target="_blank


The link you posted IS NOT a Sanders 'Imperial' but a bona-fide B & S/VMI 'stencil'.


All I know is that the bell says "Imperial" on it. You can not see it in the pictures, but it clearly says "Imperial". I suspect they were probably some B&S horns that were made as Imperials. I couldn't not find a makers country of origin on it anywhere.
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Re: Sanders Imperial- needs thumb ring

Postby Dan Schultz » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:34 pm

Gus_Pratt wrote:.... All I know is that the bell says "Imperial" on it. You can not see it in the pictures, but it clearly says "Imperial". I suspect they were probably some B&S horns that were made as Imperials. I couldn't not find a makers country of origin on it anywhere.


Maybe I spoke too soon. I went back to the original listing and there is not an image of the bell engraving that's readable. I wonder where the Ebay seller got 'Saunders' from?
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Re: Sanders Imperial- needs thumb ring

Postby Heavy_Metal » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:58 pm

The real question is- how does it play?
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