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Postby hrender » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:22 pm

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Re: York Eb

Postby bigtubby » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:55 pm

Great horns and this one looks nice but no curly cue, no "W" MTS, MTS pulled WAY out.

Looks HP to me but that can be fixed.
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Re: York Eb

Postby KiltieTuba » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:23 pm

bigtubby wrote:Great horns and this one looks nice but no curly cue, no "W" MTS, MTS pulled WAY out.

Looks HP to me but that can be fixed.


The main tuning slide looks odd. There's quite a bit of solder marks around the ends and it sort of appears that there are brass extensions to the crook.
I'm thinking it's just a poorly made MTS extension, given that no other slides are pulled out in the photos, so it'd be a little odd to photograph it with just the MTS pulled out. Compare the lengths of the MTS slide legs to the outer tubing it would fit into.
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Re: York Eb

Postby roweenie » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:33 pm

KiltieTuba wrote:
bigtubby wrote:Great horns and this one looks nice but no curly cue, no "W" MTS, MTS pulled WAY out.

Looks HP to me but that can be fixed.


The main tuning slide looks odd. There's quite a bit of solder marks around the ends and it sort of appears that there are brass extensions to the crook.
I'm thinking it's just a poorly made MTS extension, given that no other slides are pulled out in the photos, so it'd be a little odd to photograph it with just the MTS pulled out. Compare the lengths of the MTS slide legs to the outer tubing it would fit into.


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I've seen others with this same modification (super-long MTS ferrules).

A serial # date of 1905/6 would be "pre-donut" (1911 patent), and more-than-likely high pitch.

It appears to be in very nice condition, but $999 seems a little steep....
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Re: York Eb

Postby YORK-aholic » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:34 pm

I agree with Kiltie. If you look at the left side of the MTS in the picture where the brass meets the silver, it looks like that is where the 'pull' is. Looks like it is pulled out a little on the left side, but pushed in all the way on the right.

Doesn't make much difference. The curly cue HP/LP change over slide was all the same bore I believe (i.e. cylindrical, just curved) so not really any better than adding two straight tubes to the MTS.
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Re: York Eb

Postby KiltieTuba » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:37 pm

Just got a reply from the seller:
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It is pushed all the way in"
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Re: York Eb

Postby roweenie » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:42 pm

Here's the remnants of one in my shop that has the similar treatment - it appears to be a factory job (no ferrules - the MTS crook and extensions are all one piece) -

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Re: York Eb

Postby KiltieTuba » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:48 pm

roweenie wrote:Here's the remnants of one in my shop that has the similar treatment - it appears to be a factory job (no ferrules - the MTS crook and extensions are all one piece) -

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This looks tapered, is it?
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Re: York Eb

Postby roweenie » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:56 pm

Yes - there are two different bores on each side. However, the straight parts are cylindrical.

My guess is that when the horn was new, it probably came with two different MTS (HP and LP). The HP one was probably lost or discarded many years ago. I've got to assume the curly-cue patent in 1911 was made to simplify this issue (two tuning slides in one...).

It just appears to be an MTS crook with very long legs....
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