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Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby thejester10276 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:44 pm

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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby thejester10276 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:47 pm

Looks Martin to me, but I'm not 100% sure
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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby humBell » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:40 pm

Good catch!

I had seen the 3rd valve wrap and pegged it as a 10j without considering the size...
Reading the description, 7 inch collar... er i mean tenon is pretty large.

And yeah the thumb ring like that between two wraps i think i've only seen on a Martin...

It is consistent with a few other details as well. Not that i know much...
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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby tubazach07 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:33 pm

It is 100% a Martin Mammoth BBb tuba. The lead pipe, wrap of the tubing, and size of the bows are a dead give away but it is missing the Martin bits that go with it. The ferrules are post 1934. From 1934 and before the Martins had ferrules that resembled the old yorks or Conn tubas. In 1935 they changed to the design pictured in the add.
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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby YORK-aholic » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:57 am

tubazach07 wrote:It is 100% a Martin Mammoth BBb tuba but it is missing the Martin bits that go with it.


Not to mention the bell :lol:
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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby The Big Ben » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:30 am

YORK-aholic wrote:
tubazach07 wrote:It is 100% a Martin Mammoth BBb tuba but it is missing the Martin bits that go with it.


Not to mention the bell :lol:


Is the tenon size the same as a Conn 2xJ? Or does it need a "Martin" bell? Of course, there are the Kanstul bells but they cost more than used bells (especially the unpopular recording bells). Otherwise, it looks like a good project. The visible repairs aren't too drastic. Would make "big sound"
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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby YORK-aholic » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:47 am

Different tenon size than the Conn 2xj
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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby humBell » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:09 am

And... seller has a second one now up for auction, in case you missed the first...
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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby The Big Ben » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:36 am

humBell wrote:And... seller has a second one now up for auction, in case you missed the first...


Indeed. Compared to the other one, the tenon and lead pipe are straight but has a few more dents on the rest of the body. Still, a very respectable Martin Mammoth:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Unbrand ... 0011.m1850
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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby edsel585960 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:59 pm

YORK-aholic wrote:Different tenon size than the Conn 2xj

Bummer, I thought about bidding but if the 21J bell wouldn't fit would just sit around collecting dust for who knows how long. Would be a good project for a Martin lover. :)
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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby bloke » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:19 pm

now:
to find a detachable bell with an ass-shaped connector
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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby the elephant » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:20 pm

bloke wrote:now:
to find a detachable bell with an ass-shaped connector


Very distinctive, isn't it? Definitely Martin. I know of no other maker of that era that produced ass-shaped bell tenons and collars... 8)
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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby YORK-aholic » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:23 am

bloke wrote:now:
to find a detachable bell with an ass-shaped connector


I have just the bell :lol:
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Re: Unidentified 6/4 tuba body ebay

Postby Donn » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:42 am

I think somewhere in the archives of this forum, someone claimed that a Martin straight bell fit pretty well in a large BBb Reynolds. I guess there might be some length difference, the Reynolds bell being longer. The Martin model might not have been this one.
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