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what is needed on eBay:

Postby bloke » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:29 am

When searching "tuba" on eBay, there simply is neither enough worthless crap nor enough new instruments offered at everyday prices.
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby TheGoyWonder » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:42 pm

30% new stuff at retail prices (WHY would you pay ebay fees on that)
20% indian garbage
10% busted-up stuff from Germany ect
15% totally non-tuba
10% made in chyna
1% hoaxes to off-site
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby humBell » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:09 pm

TheGoyWonder wrote:30% new stuff at retail prices (WHY would you pay ebay fees on that)
20% indian garbage
10% busted-up stuff from Germany ect
15% totally non-tuba
10% made in chyna
1% hoaxes to off-site


What's the remaining 14%
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby Mark Finley » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:20 pm

Decent tubas?
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby slsf1060 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:07 pm

TheGoyWonder wrote:20% indian garbage


What? You wouldn't want the biggest size tuba with lowest pitch made of pure brass???

Or a double belled sousaphone? :shock: :roll: :lol:
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby bigtubby » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:31 pm

slsf1060 wrote:
TheGoyWonder wrote:20% indian garbage


What? You wouldn't want the biggest size tuba with lowest pitch made of pure brass???

Or a double belled sousaphone? :shock: :roll: :lol:

... with chrome plating?

I'm still able to find the occasional bargain. Just takes tweaking keywords and patience.
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Re: what is needed on eBay: (is love, sweet love)

Postby humBell » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:52 pm

You all are obviously better at detecting the OP's sarcasm than i am.

I think i am okay with the amount of stuff i'm not interested in. It keeps it challenging, and there is mildly the hope that i might notice something others don't (or just don't care about) and thus get it cheap.

If i think about it, i am mildly bothered by "what others who looked at this also looked at" listings, but if i really cared, i 'd looked at more of the double bell sousaphones..."

On that note, i found this intriguing French listing because of that:

https://ebay.com/itm/202104648742

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Meh, not everything is perfect yet.
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby edsel585960 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:24 pm

I definitely want to see more Indian horns :?
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby TheGoyWonder » Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:45 pm

humBell wrote:
TheGoyWonder wrote:30% new stuff at retail prices (WHY would you pay ebay fees on that)
20% indian garbage
10% busted-up stuff from Germany ect
15% totally non-tuba
10% made in chyna
1% hoaxes to off-site


What's the remaining 14%


wasn't even counting but probably nailed it - those would be the conceivably playable. Including the overpriced, the undesirable models, the scary-levels of repairs needed, ect.
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby bort » Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:19 pm

Need more knockoff mouthpieces, please.
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby WC8KCY » Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:59 pm

A good part of that remaining 14% would be baritones and euphoniums listed as tubas.
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby slsf1060 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:08 am

edsel585960 wrote:I definitely want to see more Indian horns :?


Here 'ya go edsel, all that and more....possibly NSFW... :shock:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERBRASS-SOU ... SwTIhadPqs

And they've cut hundreds off the price, too.
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby the elephant » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:51 am

eBay used to be really great. Now — not so much.
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby PMeuph » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:41 am

the elephant wrote:eBay used to be really great. Now — not so much.


+1

I bought my Euph, my EEb Tuba, 6 or 7 other euphoniums, 3 or 4 trumpets, 5 or 6 trombones, plus countless other crap on ebay between 2005 and 2012.

Now eBay has bumped it's selling fees (to 10%) and the used market has died off a bit, so most of it is junk.

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I almost never look at eBay in the morning, but I just did and found out there were 30 scam listings for brass located in Canada. (I usually check what's available only in Canada, sometimes I get lucky with that.
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby the elephant » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:46 am

Yeah, back when I never had funds ready to go I rarely bought on eBay, plus I hated the whole auction thing. I am shopping, not playing a game.

So now that BIN is so common and I have a means to purchase more easily I find I buy a lot of stuff there, but rarely do I find stuff that is truly interesting. There is so much junk in every search (highly targeted, specific searches, no less) that the experience is no longer fun, and it is frequently a waste of time.

I will continue to use eBay, but it is not something I do when I am bored, it is not "an online adventure in shopping" as it was in the beginning. It is like going to a Salvation Army or Goodwill thrift store...
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby hrender » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:03 pm

bigtubby wrote:I'm still able to find the occasional bargain. Just takes tweaking keywords and patience.


This.
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby Heavy_Metal » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:06 am

slsf1060 wrote:
edsel585960 wrote:I definitely want to see more Indian horns :?


Here 'ya go edsel, all that and more....possibly NSFW... :shock:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERBRASS-SOU ... SwTIhadPqs" target="_blank

And they've cut hundreds off the price, too.


Hmmmmm........... wonder if they were taking a cue from vintage Conn tubas :shock:
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby groth » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:38 am

eBay is also moving away from Paypal within the next year to another payment service (apparently less % taken out of seller's profits) we'll see. You're right, a couple years ago there was much more cool stuff on there and now very rarely do you find them. Probably has a lot to do with 10% seller fees + 3% Paypal.
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby Donn » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:21 pm

Ebay owns Paypal, am I right? They used to, anyway, and I can't imagine how they could be so stupid as to let it get away from them. If they're changing their payment system, I would guess that just means Paypal is going to be branching out to provide that service, but if it's just about the total overhead of an Ebay sale, the obvious place to save a percent or two would be on the Ebay side.

The cool stuff experience has dwindled with the flood of cheap junk, the "worthless crap" and "new instruments offered at everyday prices", where I take "worthless crap" to also refer mainly new stuff, cheaply manufactured and available by the container load. If we could somehow filter that stuff out and see the old flea market items, there might be fewer than a few years ago, but still a lot. But if Ebay doesn't figure it out, that won't last forever. They can say goodbye to the flea market and the people who go there for that, if they can't put a lid on the ocean of cheap new stuff that flows into the categories and drowns the interesting items.
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Re: what is needed on eBay:

Postby proam » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:39 am

Donn wrote:Ebay owns Paypal, am I right?

The way I understand or remember it, PayPal was independent and was created as a payment system with ebay usage firmly in mind. ebay then acquired PayPal. Now ebay is spinning off PayPal, my guess is that they want it to look and be independent from ebay (ie, not thought of as an ebay payment system only) to better position themselves in the growing market of electronic payment systems.

Again my opinion - PayPal was innovative early on but is now starting to fall behind many of the newer payment systems. ebay hopes by spinning it off they can better capitalize on the burgeoning market.
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