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Postby YORK-aholic » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:36 am

Interesting horn by the looks of it. I think it is probably based on the Renowned large 4/4 size rather than the larger Mammoth size. The Renowned I had (3 valve piston top action) was a really good player.

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Re: rotary valve Martin BBb

Postby bisontuba » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:07 am

Wow
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Re: rotary valve Martin BBb

Postby hrender » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:14 am

Very cool.
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Re: rotary valve Martin BBb

Postby bort » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:22 am

Awesome!
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Re: rotary valve Martin BBb

Postby YORK-aholic » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:55 am

I would make the assumption then, that Martin bought their rotary valve clusters from Europe. I like the serial number plate on the first valve tubing. :D
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Re: rotary valve Martin BBb

Postby MN_TimTuba » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:10 pm

Interesting, that they chose to do the little loopty-loop with the lead pipe, rather than the rotary traditional up and over following along the upper bow.
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Re: rotary valve Martin BBb

Postby YORK-aholic » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:49 pm

MN_TimTuba wrote:Interesting, that they chose to do the little loopty-loop with the lead pipe, rather than the rotary traditional up and over following along the upper bow.


True, but they were being pragmatic. You have to put a main tuning slide somewhere. The more traditional leadpipe would have eaten up the extra length.
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Re: rotary valve Martin BBb

Postby MN_TimTuba » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:34 pm

YORK-aholic wrote:
MN_TimTuba wrote:Interesting, that they chose to do the little loopty-loop with the lead pipe, rather than the rotary traditional up and over following along the upper bow.


True, but they were being pragmatic. You have to put a main tuning slide somewhere. The more traditional leadpipe would have eaten up the extra length.

Yeah, I had thought the same thing; however, Miraphone, Meinl-Weston, etc, do manage to go up and over while still keeping that big tuning slide down low. The Martin loop just struck me as unusual (and kind of nifty) for a rotary horn. Also, they could have gone up and over and put the tuning slide there, where one could operate it with the left hand, since the right hand stays busy most of the time.
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Re: rotary valve Martin BBb

Postby Donn » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:40 pm

YORK-aholic wrote:I think it is probably based on the Renowned large 4/4 size rather than the larger Mammoth size. The Renowned I had (3 valve piston top action) was a really good player.


And this one is wrapped for top action, right?
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Re: rotary valve Martin BBb

Postby YORK-aholic » Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:25 pm

Donn wrote:And this one is wrapped for top action, right?


Oh, I hadn't even noticed. Obviously it is 'front action' but yes, you're right, in that the second smaller "top bow" is behind the 'top bow'. Weird/interesting...
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