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Unless you're prepared for an extremely flat 5th and 8th partial, I would not pay that amount of money. I've played the horn and it needs dent work, especially in the lead pipe.

Dillon's has one too... wonder if it's any better?

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It's different, for sure. Hmmm. I should have noticed it earlier - the ebay instrument has a sideways main tuning slide, like 186 etc. 190 was lengthwise - mine was if I remember right, and I see this cited as a distinctive 190 feature elsewhere. And that Dillon instrument likewise - the proportions seem off to me, but I really don't remember that well. So ... what is that ebay tuba? They wouldn't make major changes like that and keep the same model number, would they?

If it's not a 190 then I don't know what it is. All I can tell you is that it dwarfs my 2155R and that's not a small tuba either. It's definitely in the same size class as a large Cerveny. It's easy to hold though, you don't need to put it on the chair to reach the lead pipe and the slides are easy to access.

LCTuba89 wrote:Unless you're prepared for an extremely flat 5th and 8th partial, I would not pay that amount of money. I've played the horn and it needs dent work, especially in the lead pipe.

Sounds like praising with faint damning...useless 5th partial, and a pocket of goofy high notes needing alt fingering, is a given with most rotary tubas anyways. how flat is 2nd partial/low BBb, that's the real danger with this family of tubas.

TheGoyWonder wrote:

LCTuba89 wrote:Unless you're prepared for an extremely flat 5th and 8th partial, I would not pay that amount of money. I've played the horn and it needs dent work, especially in the lead pipe.

Sounds like praising with faint damning...useless 5th partial, and a pocket of goofy high notes needing alt fingering, is a given with most rotary tubas anyways. how flat is 2nd partial/low BBb, that's the real danger with this family of tubas.

Honestly, the 2nd partial Bb was very close in-tune. Every partial on that horn was solid except the ones mentioned. I didn't go above the 8th partial to test those notes, but I'm pretty sure they need alternates as well.

Could this be a BAT Cerveny with a Mirafone 190 bell? A lot of it does look like Mirafone, but there are some braces and things about it that look a bit like Cerveny.

The owner quoted me $4000 for the tuba if all dents removed, valves cleaned, aligned, new bumpers, etc.

Tabor wrote:Could this be a BAT Cerveny with a Mirafone 190 bell? A lot of it does look like Mirafone, but there are some braces and things about it that look a bit like Cerveny.

Dunno about a Cerveny, but the body of the tuba does look different. The rotary section with it's nylon sockets and, of course the bell, scream Mirafone. But the two-piece nickle-silver leadpipe and the wrap and taper of the outer bows (to me) scream vintage B&M or Meinl/Melton. And I think there have been some older B&M tubas with that type of bracing
Either way, an interesting tuba