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4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby YORK-aholic » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:39 am

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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby Sousaswag » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:36 am

I think that's the new 40k that came out a while ago. So, yes, seems to be a 20k with 4 valves, but called the 40k :mrgreen:
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby the elephant » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:13 am

He states that it is a Naked Lady. Ask to see the engraving. It may have an old bell that has been re-lacquered. Or he may be full of it. He calls it "rare"...

I am not calling his price into question. Okay, I am, but not for *that* reason...
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby TUbajohn20J » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:57 am

It is a rare horn. That would be the all brass version of the 24K, which is the 4 valve fiberglass. It even has the old style metal shoulder pad and old style bracings on the leadpipe instead of the round ones made today, mother of pearl finger buttons, and all the bracings throughout are old style. Everything on this horn screams it was made in the 60's. I know they didn't make many of either model and not sure if they activity promoted this model, but they did make them for a brief time together. A certain school in Arkansas still has a few of these in their marching band. Super cool.
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby Donn » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:05 am

Do we know for a fact that they don't ever use that engraving any more? That thing sure doesn't look like it's been around long. MSRP over $10K.
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby hrender » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:44 pm

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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby Donn » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:38 pm

It is the same guy. Might be able to get him to throw in the mouthpiece for free! the $250 is trivial relative to the $4500 asking price for the 40K or whatever it is.
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby KiltieTuba » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:49 pm

Yea, this is a legit old sousaphone - not one of the newer revised 40K sousaphones.
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby Gongadin » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:58 pm

Don't forget that Harvey Hartman made at least one 20K into a four valve version.

http://harvshappyhorns.blogspot.com/2009/06/adding-4th-valve-to-20k-conn.html
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby bort » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:54 pm

hrender wrote:https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/msg/d/tuba-mouthpiece/6568122400.html

Might be the same guy selling this Conn Chief.


Is the Cheif rarer than the Chief?
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby Gongadin » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:58 pm

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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby Donn » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:11 pm

bort wrote:Is the Cheif rarer than the Chief?


If you write to correct his spelling, talk to him about "it's" while you're at it.
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby Kirley » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:38 pm

Wow!
It's definitely not the new 40K. The 4th valve wrap on the new ones are different. This one is wrapped like the original 40K (long stroke valves). This is quite exciting. Never seen nor heard of this model. So, cool.
Even with more fingering options, I bet you the C in the staff is still flat. :D
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby YORK-aholic » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:13 am

This guy has been selling sousaphones in So Cal for years. I seem to remember that he started a repair 'business' a while back. I bought a Martin euphonium from him perhaps 10 years ago and he was fine to do business with.
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby TUbajohn20J » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:09 am

These were made alongside the large bore fiberglass 4 valve 24K for a couple years. They're not in any catalog I've seen as Conn didn't really promote these models. Super rare! I want it! Keep coming back to look at this horn.. But I just don't need two 4 valve sousas. Yes that valve section is the exact same layout as the old style 40K but with short strokers. If money was no option...!!!
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby YORK-aholic » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:19 pm

If you buy it, I'll pick it up for you and keep it safe until you're ready for the road trip. Or I'll even ship it for you if you don't mind me playing it for an hour or two first...
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby bloke » Tue May 01, 2018 9:30 pm

Is it too late to toss in my angrily suspicious post into this thread...??
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby Casca Grossa » Wed May 02, 2018 8:17 am

bloke wrote:Is it too late to toss in my angrily suspicious post into this thread...??


It's never too late
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Re: 4 valve Conn 20K ?

Postby YORK-aholic » Thu May 03, 2018 1:15 am

bloke wrote:Is it too late to toss in my angrily suspicious post into this thread...??


Even though the seller has deleted the ad, now you've got me really curious! What is your angry suspicion?
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