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Yamaha YBB-841G

Postby hrender » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:00 am

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Re: Yamaha YBB-841G

Postby bort » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:06 am

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Curious if the 841 is actually a good tuba, as opposed to the 641 which nobody seems to love.
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Re: Yamaha YBB-841G

Postby Mark Finley » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:17 am

Looks to be the same tuba in gold brass. It would be interesting to try one though, just to see if it's as much of a dog as a 641
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Re: Yamaha YBB-841G

Postby joshealejo » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:17 am

The Peruvian National Symphony owns 3 BBb tubas, A Yamaha 641, a Yamaha 841G and a very old Alexander (I think is the 163). I have played the 2 Yamahas and actually the 841 is a great tuba! very different from that 641 wich I really do not like! Fast reesponse, in tune and easy to play.
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Re: Yamaha YBB-841G

Postby bort » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:52 am

joshealejo wrote:The Peruvian National Symphony owns 3 BBb tubas, A Yamaha 641, a Yamaha 841G and a very old Alexander (I think is the 163). I have played the 2 Yamahas and actually the 841 is a great tuba! very different from that 641 wich I really do not like! Fast reesponse, in tune and easy to play.


Very interesting!

From what I understand, Yamaha sells different tubas in different markets. I forget what their rotary CC model number is... but it's quite rare in the US, and I understand they are still made and can be ordered in other countries. It's been ages since I've played one of those, but I seem to recall a lot of people like it.
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Re: Yamaha YBB-841G

Postby Mark Finley » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:58 am

So here in America they sell the crap to public schools. Nice
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Re: Yamaha YBB-841G

Postby joshealejo » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:15 am

bort wrote:
joshealejo wrote:The Peruvian National Symphony owns 3 BBb tubas, A Yamaha 641, a Yamaha 841G and a very old Alexander (I think is the 163). I have played the 2 Yamahas and actually the 841 is a great tuba! very different from that 641 wich I really do not like! Fast reesponse, in tune and easy to play.


Very interesting!

From what I understand, Yamaha sells different tubas in different markets. I forget what their rotary CC model number is... but it's quite rare in the US, and I understand they are still made and can be ordered in other countries. It's been ages since I've played one of those, but I seem to recall a lot of people like it.



Yes I really do not understand why they do that haha... In the 90´s the Japan goverment made donations to the National Conservatory of Music and the National Symphony and tons of Yamaha instruments were donated. The Conservatory owned only two Yamahas 641 BBb until 2009, when the very first B&S PT10 F tuba was purchased by the Conservatory. The National Symphony still have their 2 Yamahas and the Alexander. As you can see, the BBb is the "main" instrument here.

So yeah, the "Tuba world" in Peru is actually very young... 8)
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Re: Yamaha YBB-841G

Postby bort » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:28 pm

Has anyone ever played (or seen?) the YBB-645?

https://europe.yamaha.com/files/download/brochure/9/1152259/W257_LowBrass.pdf

Very interesting information, Jose! How many major orchestras are in Peru?
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Re: Yamaha YBB-841G

Postby joshealejo » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:36 am

bort wrote:Has anyone ever played (or seen?) the YBB-645?

https://europe.yamaha.com/files/download/brochure/9/1152259/W257_LowBrass.pdf

Very interesting information, Jose! How many major orchestras are in Peru?



The main orchestras in Peru are:

-The Peru National Symphony Orchestra
-The Cusco Symphony Orchestra
-The Arequipa Symphony Orchestra
-The Trujillo Symphony Orchestra
-The Piura Municipal Orchestra

The 645 seems to be the same as the 641 but with 0.815 bore and in goldbrass (oposed o 0.811 bore and yellow brass for the 641). The 841G have a different wrap of tubing. I have not tryed many BBb (or other tubas as they are not aviable for testing in Southamerica like they are in USA or Europe or Asia) But the 841G is really superior to the 641 in every way. Very comparable to a Miraphone 186 BBb.
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