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Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:20 am
by greenbean
The sloppiness (and weirdness) of the eBay posting is strange, I will say, given the good reputation of Wichita Band. I have bought several woodwinds from them (back on the ol' days) and they were straight-shooters. Back then - and probably today - they specialized in woodwinds. So... I am willing to be somewhat forgiving of the employee who posted the tuba and their lack of expertise in low brass. They are not exactly trying to scam anyone, after all.

Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:09 am
by bort
The original ad has been updated with more information -- photos of the tuba and the pricelist, with corrections and more details.

Time to put this to rest! :tuba:

Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:36 am
by groth
bort wrote:The original ad has been updated with more information -- photos of the tuba and the pricelist, with corrections and more details.

Time to put this to rest! :tuba:
Yes, we're right back to square 1 again.
What we have learned is: A)This horn is a good value for $2850 (I guess if you're in the market for one) and
B)He's still promoting a price list that doesn't reflect the actual refurbished horn in question nor does anyone in the private market ever pay those numbers even for a "new" 2341. :roll:

Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:15 pm
by toobagrowl
Wichita Band has always sorta "hyped up" the MSRP of many horns the have for sale, while usually having a good/reasonable actual sale price for said horns. I just skip over their MSRP 'talk' and look at the actual sale price, and it is usually pretty good :!:

Ya know, the King 2341 (esp. the tall/detachable bell model from the 1980s-90s) is a very good tuba as is. But I think it could have been an awesome tuba had it been equipped with a larger .728" or .734" valveset bore, and a 5th rotor @ .750" or so. Just think about it :tuba:

Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:52 am
by tofu
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Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:34 am
by rperrym
Taylor Music has one for $2550 that has been recently overhauled. Description on their website sounds like it is in nice shape.
Knowing them, I would bet it is.

Rick

Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:36 pm
by edsel585960
lost wrote:I have no pity for someone who buys this(it's nice!). I have no pity for anyone who believes ANY MSRP. I have no pity for anyone who doesn't research before making a big buy like this.
Amen. Do your homework before buying.

Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:04 pm
by groth
The rest of us have no pity for dishonesty in listing ads. Whoever gets this horn however will be happy with it either way.

Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:19 pm
by groth
lost wrote:When i was a kid collecting comic books, i used to value each of my books as the highest book value in near mint condition. Naturally they weren't in mint condition, but in my eyes i believed they were worth that or could be worth that. Was I being dishonest? or did i really believe they could be worth that? I have no pity for those who assume the worst of people.
The difference is you weren't selling these on Ebay for profit with a 100% feedback rating to keep clean like WitchitaBand is. If it's a fun hobby like comic books and (you're a kid) it's not that big of a deal. No one is assuming the "worst" here, just calling BS on his description and had hopes he would fix it by removing irrelevant MSRP numbers. I'm sure they got their 100% through many years of hard work and customer service, just doesn't set well for some reason.

Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:36 pm
by toobagrowl
A few points to be made:

- The listing has now ended/expired.

- The seller described the valves as "excellent" and showed pics of the valves, appearing to be in great condition with no pitting or plating wear.

- The seller DID correct himself/herself in the MSRP price description if you read it.

So, yeah :wink:

Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:43 am
by greenbean
Whatever... :|

Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:04 am
by tofu
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Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:07 pm
by bort
Not good enough!!! :roll: :P

Re: Refurbished King 2341

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:10 am
by groth
Probably because someone bought the horn the second time it "ended".