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Re: Kanstul Project Horns

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:05 pm
by AaronC1901
Somebody bought that tuba for really cheap from Kanstul and is now reselling it.

Re: Kanstul Project Horns

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:42 pm
by groth
AaronC1901 wrote:Somebody bought that tuba for really cheap from Kanstul and is now reselling it.
Not that cheap..he's not going to be making any profit off that. If anything, breaking even at best.

Re: Kanstul Project Horns

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:52 pm
by sugawi
If it’s the same as sold by Kanstul on eBay he can make some $$$, that one sold for $1,000.

Re: Kanstul Project Horns

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:12 am
by groth
sugawi wrote:If it’s the same as sold by Kanstul on eBay he can make some $$$, that one sold for $1,000.
A recent visit to the factory and there was only 1 of these available for sale. Their asking price was in the $3000 range cash. Sometimes eBay listings that show “best offer received” don’t show nearly the price agreed upon by the seller to the public browsing the ad. Kanstul would never let this horn go for $1000 or I would have gotten it.

Re: Kanstul Project Horns

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:55 pm
by sugawi
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Re: Kanstul Project Horns

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:43 pm
by groth
*Edited*
The guy who bought the "$1500" one also spent more than the visible price (the one without the bell). Like I said, in person their asking price was >$3000. An offer was made and I promise they didn't let it go for as cheap as you think. The horn played "ok" because it was one of their early prototypes and was very pitchy.

Re: Kanstul Project Horns

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:59 pm
by sugawi
If someone has too much time on their hands here is discussion on Kanstul situation...
https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/vie ... sc&start=0

Re: Kanstul Project Horns

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:24 am
by groth
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Well, I just telling the way it was when I was negotiating with them. They listed as auction starting at $1250 with option to send the offer. I sent them offer for $1000, they sent counter offer for $1,350. Plus shipping/handling it was around $1,550. It was for complete horn with bell, not sure about cases. Any company that price their product at MSRP of close to $15,000 and willing to let it go for less than 10% of that must be facing some tough times, or maybe something particular about this horn that they’re willing to sell that cheap. My problem with this horn wasn’t even that, it just not what I needed though the price was ridiculously cheap.[/quote]
Well, they 'are' going out of business. So if that is true, it doesn't surprise me. Their production shop was nearly empty in the middle of the day (no employees but Troy left on that side of it), and all their machines were for sale as well. They are just liquidating everything. Good job China, you win apparently. :x

Re: Kanstul Project Horns

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:25 am
by sugawi
They also had or still have some kind of a blowout sale advertised via Facebook some time ago...
http://www.kanstul.com/wp-content/uploa ... celist.pdf

Re: Kanstul Project Horns

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:07 am
by groth
Those will probably all go to schools, sad to see such a liquidation. I knew after the old man passed, this might happen. Perfect storm of new Chinese horns hitting the market for less plus that..