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				Seattle CL: Conn International 87-J BBb 4 rotary valve
				Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:01 am
				by sugawi
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Seattle CL: Conn International 87-J BBb 4 rotary valve
				Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:21 pm
				by Donn
				Bb.  Could be the very same as the one featured in this thread:  
Conn International 2300 BBb *Now with Pictures* 
			 
			
					
				Re: Seattle CL: Conn International 87-J BBb 4 rotary valve
				Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:25 pm
				by sugawi
				I’m going with “I don’t know what this is” that’s why I posted here so pro’s can figure it out  

Form picture I can see that engraving has “Styriaton” in it. From search I found this:
“A globe showing the Americas and part of another continent, with "CONN®" at the top, and "INTERNATIONAL" around the lower portion of the globe.  Instruments labeled Styriaton have "STYRIATON" at the top with "CONN INTERNATIONAL" around the globe base.
Used on imported Conn instruments (usually trumpets, and some cornets and saxophones) from the 1990s until about 2007.”
https://sites.google.com/site/postelkhartconn/logos 
			 
			
					
				Re: Seattle CL: Conn International 87-J BBb 4 rotary valve
				Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:21 pm
				by iiipopes
				sugawi wrote:I’m going with “I don’t know what this is” that’s why I posted here so pro’s can figure it out  

Form picture I can see that engraving has “Styriaton” in it. From search I found this:
“A globe showing the Americas and part of another continent, with "CONN®" at the top, and "INTERNATIONAL" around the lower portion of the globe.  Instruments labeled Styriaton have "STYRIATON" at the top with "CONN INTERNATIONAL" around the globe base.
Used on imported Conn instruments (usually trumpets, and some cornets and saxophones) from the 1990s until about 2007.”
https://sites.google.com/site/postelkhartconn/logos 
See this link: 
viewtopic.php?t=59862&p=500899"  target="_blank
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Seattle CL: Conn International 87-J BBb 4 rotary valve
				Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:59 pm
				by sugawi
				Per seller it’s BBb and he provided more information:
Bell 14 inches, bore size 18.8mm 
37 inches tall
On rotary valve cluster
201061
One of the rotary valves marked “KK”
Around 20 years old.
So what maker/model is this?
			 
			
					
				Re: Seattle CL: Conn International 87-J BBb 4 rotary valve
				Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:10 pm
				by Heavy_Metal
				Cerveny would be my guess, from the round backplate on the thumb ring.
			 
			
					
				Re: Seattle CL: Conn International 87-J BBb 4 rotary valve
				Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:12 am
				by sugawi
				bloke wrote:I'm going with "not the same tuba" and "E-flat". 
Others will go their own ways.
Heavy_Metal wrote:Cerveny would be my guess, from the round backplate on the thumb ring.
Thank you for all advice. Looking at these responses it does look like Cerveny Eb. Same bell size, bore is pretty close, location of first tuning slide and brace from third valve tubing to main tuning slide.
https://www.prowinds.com/product/CEB641-4PX/Cerveny
