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Ft. Myers CL: Contra

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:44 am
by hrender

Re: Ft. Myers CL: Contra

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:47 am
by The Brute Squad
Wow, an old piston-rotor. Those haven't been a thing in ages.

Re: Ft. Myers CL: Contra

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:02 pm
by the elephant
This is a Getzen "baby" contra. They are horrible blatweasles. At best this is worth about $150, regardless of condition or if there is a case or even a neck - $150 - no more than that.

These have a trombone-sized bore and play terribly under the best of conditions. The parts are not even worth much because the chrome plating must be sanded off by hand if you want to use them for anything. The bell and bottom bow are SMALLER than a Yamaha YBB 103. Unless you are desperate for that size of bell and bottom bow the horn is of no use. If you want a piece of history, buy one that was a well liked horn and not one of these things. No one who played them back in the late 1960 (they fell out of use by about 1974 in all but the poorest of corps) liked them. Everyone liked the Olds Ultratone piston/rotor contra, which is much larger. It is based on the bell and bottom bow of the Old O-99 BBb tuba and it plays very well up to about forte. They get blatty too much above that, but that was how these things were supposed to sound back then. The Getzen in the ad was never a good horn, even when new. Trust me. I have had to play them over the years and own one in pristine shape that is a total non-player.

Paying $150 is only about a hundred down the drain for a super large paperweight. Paying $700 is insane. This guy thinks is it the very rare Whaley-Royce contra, which was the very first one ever made. It was Canadian. This is not one of those, guaranteed. He thinks it is worth potentially thousands of dollars. No freaking way, dude.

CAVEAT EMPTOR!

Re: Ft. Myers CL: Contra

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:48 pm
by edsel585960
Yup, not even gonna go look at it.

Re: Ft. Myers CL: Contra

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:28 pm
by Radar
Other than a relic of days gone by what would you even do with a two valve horn in the key of G? Drum Corps don't even use these anymore.

Re: Ft. Myers CL: Contra

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:37 pm
by the elephant
A lot of the DEGs from the end of the two-valved G era were made by Weril and are pretty good (smallish) 4/4 horns, and people will turn them into cheap 4 valved BBb concert tubas. I do not recommend this as it is netting you a horn of okay quality for a premium amount of cash and time (for parts and labor). The interesting ones to play with are the much larger and better playing King K-90 two piston GG contras, which are the 19" bell (the best IMHO) from the detachable bell era of 2341/1241 tubas and the bottom bow, with a very tall top bow and open wrap. These do well with a larger valve section (moving from the standard King .687" to something like a .750" bore, which is not too hard to find used). They are big enough to have some fun making it into different configurations, like a four valved K-90 in GG or BBb (use the original bore size for this) or into any number of fun-but-sort-of-useless concert tubas in GG, BBb or CC. I know of one that is a five valved FF, but it plays like doo-doo, IMHO. There are better parts horns or collectibles than these Getzen "blat-weasels". ($1 to tubatooter1940 - RIP, sir.)

Re: Ft. Myers CL: Contra

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:41 pm
by edsel585960
Well, he did come down on the price to $200 https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/ms ... 38534.html

Re: Ft. Myers CL: Contra

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:36 pm
by bloke
If the case fits anything at all (something owned by the buyer, such as an ancient small-bore E-flat tuba), that's worth $100. The rotor in good cond. (regardless of bore and config.) is worth $25. The rest might make a good stays-shiny-no-matter-what yard decoration for a tuba-playing person.