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Keefer Sousaphone

Postby humBell » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:51 am

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Re: Keefer Sousaphone

Postby Kirley » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:52 am

It looks beautiful.
But the location of the bell engraving is really strange. Like the bell flare was clocked over when assembled.
Are these horns related to Yorks?
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone

Postby lost » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:22 pm

This looks exactly like my early york sousaphone.
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone

Postby humBell » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:04 pm

Does look Yorkish, doesn't it?

I think i have seen 40s Keefer Eb sousaphone that at least to my dubious memory wasn' dissimilar.

It had a much larger bell than i felt it should, and it had the loop in the 3rd valve circuit, which seems very unusual for Eb
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone

Postby bigtubby » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:51 pm

Looks a _LOT_ like my c1925 York Helicon.
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone

Postby humBell » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:54 pm

Thanks for posting a picture to compare.

Seems like a very close match.

And as i remember the Eb, it still had the Keefer style leadpipe, just needing something akin to long bits. Rather than a goose neck.

If we care, we can ask seller about marks on valves.
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone

Postby roweenie » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:06 pm

I think it's likely a stencil, as I don't believe there's any direct connection between the two companies.

The top piston caps, ferrules, and what I can see from the bracing all look like York manufacture to me.
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone

Postby Paul Scott » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:29 pm

I've seen a catalogue listing one of these things. If I can find the page I'll post it
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone

Postby lost » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:44 am

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Re: Keefer Sousaphone

Postby roweenie » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:01 pm

As I suspected, a York stencil.

Then again, it is a sousaphone, so there is an outside possibility that the bell alone is Keefer, while the body is most definitely York manufacture.

Paul, did you find that Keefer catalogue?
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone

Postby Paul Scott » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:29 am

Yes, I have. They called this a Wagnerphone. If you go to Dave Detwiler's great site you'll find this horn as you scroll down. Based in Williamsport, PA, apparently. Oddly, the ad heralds a bell-up instrument! Made in "Monster and Pony Sizes", (first I've heard of the term "Pony Size"!).

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Re: Keefer Sousaphone

Postby Three Valves » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:31 pm

“Pony Size” is a 7oz bottle of Rolling Rock where I come from!!
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