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186 C mouthpiece

Postby bloke » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:24 pm

Lately, I've been monkeying around with a very old 186 C tuba that I own, and have been going back-and-forth between keeping/flipping it...particularly since my only other not-huge C tuba will soon be packed and headed off to its new owner.

If you're as old as I am, you'll remember that the 186 tubas, decades ago, were shipped with Miraphone size C4 (now stamped "TU23") mouthpieces. Perhaps (??) those were a good choice for a general ~style~ of mouthpiece, but (possibly?) just a bit on the "bright" side, sonically, when paired with a 186...thus the past reputation for the 186 tubas (due to people playing them with that supplied mouthpiece) offering a "bright" sound.

If you own a 186...and own a Sellmansberger "Solo" cup set-up...and additionally own a "Profundo" (1/8" extra depth) rim - or cup extender ring...give that combo a trial with your 186, and just see what you think. :idea:
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Re: 186 C mouthpiece

Postby Stryk » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:47 am

Keep it. The older ones can't be beat. So, what does the Solo do for the 186 that makes it a better choice than the Symphony?
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Re: 186 C mouthpiece

Postby bort » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:01 am

What is the not-huge CC that you just sold?

I can't advise you whether to keep it sell. But it does seem to fall in-between the size of the Thor and Symphonie.
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Re: 186 C mouthpiece

Postby bloke » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:39 am

Stryk wrote:Keep it. The older ones can't be beat. So, what does the Solo do for the 186 that makes it a better choice than the Symphony?


For folks (such as you) who also own a couple of other larger-than-186 tubas, it pulls more clarity out of a 186 - but without the uber-"brightness" of the (decades ago) factory-supplied C4. Sellmansberger "Solo" + 1/8-inch of extra cup depth: similar type of sound to C4, without the tendency of a harsh-ish sonority at higher volume levels.

...and (sorry for typing in non sequitur remarks, but) the post isn't about whether-or-not I'll eventually sell the tuba. :oops: It's about
If you have these components laying around - and own a 186 - try out this combo, and see what you think.
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Re: 186 C mouthpiece

Postby iiipopes » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:27 pm

When I was in grad school, I played tuba one year in the university band, including football field marching (an NCAA I university). I was issued a 186 with the C4. The tone was perfect to support that ensemble. After a few weeks, hearing me both on the field and in concert, the department chair, not knowing I was already in grad school, asked me if I wanted a scholarship to change my major to tuba performance, as he was impressed with my playing and tone, especially after showing up the entire souzy section on a marching band selection that nobody else, even the music majors, could play and march at the same time. Already in grad school, I had to respectfully decline.
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