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Re: Tubenet "sponsors"
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:13 am
by WoodSheddin
LV wrote:snufflelufigus wrote:OK guys, This is a blatent commercial plug, it's not for me so that makes it better.
The latest by Pat Sheridan and Sam Pilafian just arrived on my doorstep - Roodoo Voodoo! ...
sounds gay...
Sean,
I know you're life doesn't revolve around Tubenet and it's not your priority these days, but this Tubenet "sponsor" is really adding nothing to Tubenet as a sponsor or poster.
IMVHO & FWIW...
To the contrary. It is all the overly conservative types who continue to gang up and attack him relentlessly which is the real problem. He made an album and wants to push it, but those who dislike it feel it upon themselves to attack him instead of shutting up and not purchasing the recording.
This is a big world with room for everyone who means well and from the few posts I have read from him, he has actually been mostly restrained considering the holier than thou attacks launched at him.
Re: Tubenet "sponsors"
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:59 am
by UDELBR
WoodSheddin wrote:LV wrote:snufflelufigus wrote:
sounds gay...
Sean,
I know you're life doesn't revolve around Tubenet and it's not your priority these days, but this Tubenet "sponsor" is really adding nothing to Tubenet as a sponsor or poster.
IMVHO & FWIW...
To the contrary. It is all the overly conservative types who continue to gang up and attack him relentlessly which is the real problem.
Hear hear! Well said, Sean.
Re: Tubenet "sponsors"
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:44 pm
by TubaRay
WoodSheddin wrote:
To the contrary. It is all the overly conservative types who continue to gang up and attack him relentlessly which is the real problem. He made an album and wants to push it, but those who dislike it feel it upon themselves to attack him instead of shutting up and not purchasing the recording.
This is a big world with room for everyone who means well and from the few posts I have read from him, he has actually been mostly restrained considering the holier than thou attacks launched at him.
I am in complete agreement with you, Sean. I rather appreciate Brian's posts. He writes about things with which he has knowledge and experience, and I find them very helpful, especially in understanding the business of music(and of tubas in the business world). I am glad to see you defend him.
I would urge Brian to continue posting as he has. I continue to learn from him.
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:52 pm
by TubaRay
Perhaps I did misunderstand. I think it is interesting how the word "gay" is used these days. I would reiterate my support of Brian F's posts, however I think I missed what you intended concerning the response of "gay."
I also find it rather interesting, Sean, that you bring the word "conservative" into the picture in this discussion(even though I agree with you on this one), when one considers that you have banned political discussions on your board. I am trying to think of a manner in which "overly conservative types" could be used and not refer to something political. I'm thinking....
Sorry if I misunderstoody you, LV.
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:01 pm
by TubaRay
I think I'm starting to reach the point where I am learning more than I would like to. As usual, Bloke is the source of some very "interesting" information.
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:04 pm
by quinterbourne
I guess it might just be me, but I'd expect a certain level of respect and maturity from those endowed with the term "TubeNet Sponsor." With that title comes a "product association" between the TubeNet and the sponsor.
I understand that Sponsors are what enable Sean to host such a fine forum - so much time, effort and resources go into this. However, organizations in general are very careful who they allow to be their sponsors. I've even known some organizations who drop their sponsors due to bad publicity brought on by the sponsor. The title "TubeNet sponsor" should not give the sponsor "free reign" to do whatever they please.
Regarding the CD, it is unconventional, and I understand why some people may dislike it. However, I think people need to either keep their feelings to themselves or actually give reasoning behind their suggestion not to purchase it. By just saying that it's gay doesn't change anyone's opinions (since people will either like it or they won't). What it really is: libel/slander.
Just like the Knobs, this CD was created because it could sell, and it shouldn't be mocked - and the performers should not be mocked either... they are super successful and we need to respect that.
I do admire Sean's efforts with the TubeNet and this is by no means a complaint towards him, just food for thought. I completely recognize his authority.
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:53 am
by UDELBR
Quinterbourne writes:
I do admire Sean's efforts with the TubeNet. <snip> I completely recognize his authority.
But also:
The title "TubeNet sponsor" should not give the sponsor "free reign" to do whatever they please.
Hmmm. So you recognize Sean's right to run
his forum exactly the way he wants, yet you're eager to dole out unsolicited advice to him. Is that correct?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:25 am
by quinterbourne
UncleBeer wrote:Quinterbourne writes:
I do admire Sean's efforts with the TubeNet. <snip> I completely recognize his authority.
But also:
The title "TubeNet sponsor" should not give the sponsor "free reign" to do whatever they please.
Hmmm. So you recognize Sean's right to run
his forum exactly the way he wants, yet you're eager to dole out unsolicited advice to him. Is that correct?

Yes, I know this is his thing and I do respect him for that. I think he runs a pretty tight ship. The fact that he has a "feedback" section suggests, to me, that he does, indeed, solicit advice from us who use his forum.
Lots of offices and stores have "suggestion boxes." The "feedback section" is the equivalent to the "suggestion box."
I sure would be pissed off if a fellow employee thought (and especially if he voiced it to the entire office) negatively of my putting forth of a suggestion.
When I put forth that suggestion I sent it to Sean (so I guess I learned my lesson, next time I will send him a private message) so he could consider it. I had no idea it would fall under such ridicule.
I, clearly, understand if Sean chooses to dismiss my suggestion, but I still think I had every right to suggest it.
Sorry for ranting here... got a little hot under the collar.
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:49 am
by UDELBR
quinterbourne wrote:I, clearly, understand if Sean chooses to dismiss my suggestion
Wasn't it already obvious to you that the forum owner disagreed with your 'advice'?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:55 am
by sc_curtis
And I think its obvious that you disagree with quinterbourne, but that doesn't stop you from posting that either.
If there is a feedback section, then its there for a purpose. Ridiculing people for making suggestions negates the entire reason for having such a place to post feedback.
It is not your place to tell us what Sean feels; I think he is more than capable of telling us himself, if he is so compelled to.
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:00 am
by UDELBR
sc_curtis wrote:It is not your place to tell us what Sean feels; I think he is more than capable of telling us himself, if he is so compelled to.
And he already did, which is my point.
<rather appalled at the effrontery of those who 'help' those who need no help>