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ScottKoranda wrote: The enumeration of the number of articles is one possible metric to demonstrate a lack of controversy, and it offers no suggestion as to whether or not science as a discipline or endeavor is democratic.

Put another way, the current state of any collection of scientific journals cannot be used to argue that the advancement of science is or is not a democratic process subject to popular notions of fairness.
Frankly, a "lack of controversy" in Journals that admittedly believe creationism to be pseudo-science is about as convincing as a "lack of controversy" at the Republican convention.

The only reason to argue a lack of controversy is to imply that scientific principles are justified by popular vote among scientists. I'm glad this was the standard practice in the past, when "commonly accepted" truths were challenged. Flat earth, geo-centrism (sp?), phlogiston, Lamarckism, etc were successfully challenged.

Counting articles to demonstrate a "lack of controversy" and use it as support is disingenuous. Science can just as easily be influenced by outside philosophical biases as any other intellectual field. Some argue the creationists are attempting this. Some see that atheists have already succeeded. But to adopt the profession as the intellectual equivalent of Plato's Guardians is wrong, and will lead to the same problems as in government.

Skepticism can just as easily be applied to scientists as anyone else.
"It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."
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ScottKoranda wrote:
Thanks much for the dialogue. I will stop now and let you have the last word in this discussion if you wish.

Cheers.
I'll confess that I have not followed the entire thread--I just responded to your post. I'm sure Daryl had something interesting to say (he usually does).

So we may have been approaching the discussion from different directions there.

Just one "last word" from me: counting scientific journals to disprove the existence of controversy does not work. Journals are very selective (in any field). Publishing is important for the professional career of a scientist, but the lack of publishing does not discredit a particular field of study. Editorial control of publications is one area where philosophical bias can enter science, but not the only one.

Too long of a last word, so I shall stop, too. :-)
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