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cjk · Post by **cjk** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:56 am

i was just making a general statement on the facts of the post,,, just like u but with out ur pic Joe and the embarrassed face works for u,,, add it ,,,,,,,,,,,,smiles

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SUV's (jeeps that, for the most part, cannot do the things that real jeeps do) are marketed towards the balding, pot-bellied bourgeoisie who aspire to be more "with it" than those who drive minivans and station wagons...

...Thus, the jeep has been re-engineered into a 4-seater minivan (roughly in the shape of a jeep) to appeal to the pot-bellied bourgeoisie...presto! change-o! The SUV !

I just wanted to read that one more time.

The SUV is a largely American phenomenon fueled by folks that want other people to be "cool" and extremely cheap fuel prices.

Most "new" SUVs are based on car platforms. (Awww C'mon! Puhleeeze! A front wheel drive unibody truck?) I can't count the number of times I've heard Mister and Misses should-be-driving-a-minivan talk about how much their shiny new SUV "drives like a car". Ahem, If folks want something that drives like a car, why don't they buy a bloody car ?

I will fall out of my chair and die laughing when some car manufacturer "innovates" and builds an SUV with a sliding side door....

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:10 am

schlepporello wrote:The fact is that due to my height I may have to settle for a full sized vehicle so I can enjoy driving while wearing a baseball cap. I'm getting tired of only having two fingers of headroom.

Hey Schlepp
That new mini-mini-van/SUV Toyata Scion XB thing actually has more headroom for the front and rear passengers than a Suburban

and gets over 30MPG. pretty decent cargo room for a little thing, too. And they only start in the $13,xxx's new.

P.S. My father-in-law is a long haul trucker. He got a 3/4 ton extended cab Dodge Cummins Diesel pickup 3 years ago, figured it would be tough like his rig. He paid a fortune for it and has spent almost as much repairing it as on payments for it!

Will · Post by **Will** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:31 pm

I just throw (not actually throw) my horns in the back of my '85 S-10. Over 300,000 miles on the origional engine and tranny and still going strong!

I am sad to say though that I am getting a new tuba-toting vehicle. Well .... not actually new. It's an '83 chevy van but with only 200,000 miles. So it's really a step up.

It won't be as easy loading up my horns as it was in the truck but the bed, captain chairs, and the mini bar make up for it.

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:09 pm

cjk wrote: Most "new" SUVs are based on car platforms. (Awww C'mon! Puhleeeze! A front wheel drive unibody truck?) I can't count the number of times I've heard Mister and Misses should-be-driving-a-minivan talk about how much their shiny new SUV "drives like a car". Ahem, If folks want something that drives like a car, why don't they buy a bloody car ?

I'm glad my SUV doesn't drive like a car. I thjoght about a extended cap truck, but but it was more expensive, and I would need a bed cover for the rainy season.

I will fall out of my chair and die laughing when some car manufacturer "innovates" and builds an SUV with a sliding side door....

Give them a few more design cycles, and it'll happen. Kind of like the SUV/truk thing, which looks an alfull lot like a jeep to me (concept wise, not styling).

I looked for a station wagon, but couldn't find anything reasonable. I would much rather hve bought a 65-70 hearse, and add a second bench seat, but my wife refused to drive a hearse :( If the SRX had been out, I'd have got the 3.6L V6 version instead of this Mercury. Couldn't afford to buy (or drive) an Escalade. The V6 SRX (2wd) is rated at 16/23 mpg, about teh same as the Mercury (4L V6) I have.