School Instrument Savvy

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:53 pm

Just before school started, I was speaking with another middle-school BD who was elated because he received approval to purchase a single YEP-321 euph. I told him that for the same money, he could have purchased two Weril H980s--every bit as suitable for school playing.

The funny thing is that the dealder selling the 321 is also a DEG dealer and didn't mention the Werils at all.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:56 pm

bloke wrote:"voting-by-mail"...etc? various methods of facilitating folks more easily voting more than once.

...again, simply ways to offer easier access to institutionalized cheating.

So , Joe, since I live in the only exclusively "vote by mail" state in the union, how do you back up your statement? (facts and figures directly related to Oregon elections, not opinions)

http://www.uhavavote.org/votingguide/votebymail.html

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:31 pm

bloke wrote: "How does anyone at the election commission know who mailed in your 'vote'?"

Simple enough--if there's a question, the ballot envellope is signed and the signature must match the signature on the voter's registration card. I suppose a clever crook could figure out how to forge my otherwise illegible signature.

But no ballots are delivered to graveyards, empty lots and the middle of a river, as in some of the other states. And none are forwarded.

Matt G · Post by **Matt G** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:27 pm

bloke wrote: Here he is. Currently, he's under investigation by the FBI for some money stunt (he was actually over in another state pulling this stunt off when a storm came through a year and a half ago and knocked out nearly 100% of the electricity here...nearly a million folks).

Joe, you got no idea about crooked mayors in Memphis.

This guy has yours beat:

Vincent â€œBuddyâ€

Joe Baker · Post by **Joe Baker** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:22 am

Matthew Gilchrest wrote: BTW, he is a Republican if you didn't notice. He also has had ties with the mafia. What an upstanding fellow.

I have deleted my original comments out of deference to our host, as this thread is not supposed to be politics. Suffice to say that your insinuation that Republicans as a group would support or condone illegal activities could prompt effective partisan rebuttal.
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Joe Baker, who is showing restraint for once.

Matt G · Post by **Matt G** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:51 pm

wnazzaro wrote:
Joe Baker wrote: Suffice to say that your insinuation that Republicans as a group would support or condone illegal activities could prompt effective partisan rebuttal.
Joe, I think his point was only that both sides have crooks in their midst. I didn't take it as pointing to all Rs.

Thanks, Bill.

I am not attacking all Republicans. Just one. The fact that he has had some underworld ties just shows that all parties are guilty of having a few skeletons in their closet.

Joe Baker · Post by **Joe Baker** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:18 pm

Matthew Gilchrest wrote: I am not attacking all Republicans. Just one. The fact that he has had some underworld ties just shows that all parties are guilty of having a few skeletons in their closet.

I appreciate and accept the clarification. No doubt, EVERY group, good and bad, is occasioned by rascals. The integrity of a group is shown by how they react to the rascals found within their midst.

Musician wrote: Interesting twist to the topic supposedly being discussed.

Hey, we're a twisted bunch!

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Joe Baker, who thinks the real subject had played itself out.

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:37 pm

musician wrote:Interesting twist to the topic supposedly being discussed.

Not surprising though. The whole "approved" list and even school supplied instruments topic is politics. I'd even be wary of a "recommended" list, think there's a high probability of kickbacks in that list.

I'm from a small school in a small town. Our beginning ban had only a bass drum supplied. All other instruments were supplied by the student. The list of instruments was small. Flute, clarinette, alto sax, trumpet, trombone, and snare drum. You either supplied your own, or could rent one fo 1/2 the year. Most rentals were Yamaha. After the rental, if you wanted to contuinue you could buy it, or get one from another source. This was 1984, and I bought a 72 Olds trombone used. No one even implied that we should get a $1000 instrument. I don't remember other horns untill later. The high school owned several "expensive" horns, like tubas, baritones, other saxes, pics, "French" horns, marching drums and other percussion.

When I switched to tuba the school had a bari-sax, and 2 tubas. One tuba was a Conn (which I played) and a Yamaha (one year older). The shool owned stuff ranged in age over 40 years, and 15 different brands. We had little money, so took what could be had. Few students had new horns untill they were juniors or seniors, when the "great" players got expensive horns from their parents as gifts or they has saved up for one. Most of us went to college with the same horn we got in 6th grade, and had used the whole time.

We constantly placed at marching and concert contests during those 4 years. Any requirements on the brand of horns, mouthpiece sizes, and othe such is pure politics.

If I had been required to buy a new trombone, I would not have been able to continue. And I would never have been able to buy a tuba. Hell, as a non-music major in college, I just got a beat up tuba last year, 7 years after college.

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:02 pm

Dieseltuba wrote: It never hurts to quietly ask the right person or do what you know is right if you can get away with for the kids..

In many places that would get him fired. One of the problems of the government controlling schools. Private schools re quicker to spend funds more wisely.