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bisontuba · Post by **bisontuba** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:39 pm

bloke wrote:
Three Valves wrote:
bloke wrote:just fwiw,

I plunked the Muslim terrorist-guy's name on facebook three hours before *anyone* else (three hours before NBC, who supposedly was "first")...and it wasn't difficult to find.
I just googled around until I found some local-to-SoCal bloggers who have police scanners.
Hardcopy of Washington Post today;

http://thewashingtonpost.newspaperdirec ... iewer.aspx" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

"Motive Elusive in deadly Calif. Rampage"

Elusive??

They're having a really tough time deciding between

- climate change
- workplace violence
~ or ~
- the video.

Not at all--unlike the Fox BS, which immediately pegged the husband as the initial link to ISIS, it is now being discovered that the wife seems to be the initial link to ISIS. The Post does do their legwork. Organizations like FOX throw things out before doing any fact checking, knowing their watchers just say 'yup, it was on FOX, it must be right (wing)'.....

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:22 pm

bisontuba wrote:

Not at all--unlike the Fox BS, which immediately pegged the husband as the initial link to ISIS, it is now being discovered that the wife seems to be the initial link to ISIS.

So, are you saying the motive in deadly Calif. rampage was not elusive??

bisontuba · Post by **bisontuba** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:46 pm

I wait for ALL the facts to be presented...I DO NOT make assumptions...

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:04 pm

bisontuba wrote:I wait for ALL the facts to be presented...I DO NOT make assumptions...

That's refreshing.

It isn't as if it's a case of a White Cop and a Non-White "victim" and one can just say "The police acted stupidly!!"

No, in cases of alleged workplace violence, ALL THE FACTS must be known.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:06 pm

bloke wrote:we could have just been holograms

Or compositions by John Cage...

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:16 am

bloke wrote:If there is any musical ensemble that ACTUALLY needs to tune immediately prior to a performance, it's likely that I would not be interested in hearing them perform.

My sentiments exactly! It especially pisses me off to have a bunch of folks 'noodling around' just before a performance. Even as amateurs... there is no place for this.

Secondly... why in the Hell do drummers have to be screwing around with their damned noisemakers all the time?

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:13 pm

TubaTinker wrote: why in the Hell do drummers have to be screwing around with their damned noisemakers all the time?

Somehow they seem to be disproportionately afraid that those afore mentioned playthings will somehow cease to function when actually struck/pushed/plucked/dropped/thumped in anger...

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:09 pm

bloke wrote:.... bloke "Practice at home...or not."

+1

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:27 am

Ban Muslims from entry to the US until the Government figures it out.

Crude, sure.

But looky what happened;

House Readies a Bipartisan Press to Tighten Visa Waiver Program

Under the House bill, visitors from qualifying nations who have been in Syria and Iraq during the previous five years would not be able to participate in the waiver program. Other high-risk nations could also be added to the list and other restrictions and records checks would be imposed as well. The travel industry backs the measure.

A bipartisan group of senators led by Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, and Jeff Flake, Republican of Arizona, has introduced a bill that would impose more stringent new requirements, including additional fingerprinting. But there was a growing consensus on Monday that the Senate would be willing to accept the House measure to speed approval of the new restrictions.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-d ... gram/?_r=0" target="_blank

I'm not a Trump guy, I'm just sayin'

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:54 am

One man's populist is another man's demagogue I always say...

Meanwhile, EVERYONE gets Ape-**** over how he said it.

NO ONE goes Ape-**** over Syrians and Iraqis coming and going without so much as a Visa!!

How did that loophole go unchecked??

Who dropped THAT ball??

bisontuba · Post by **bisontuba** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:29 pm

Oh, I guess if you have money then it is ok

.......

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:40 pm

bisontuba wrote:
Oh, I guess if you have money then it is ok .......

It rarely hurts!!

tbn.al · Post by **tbn.al** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:00 pm

Obviously "The Donald" is enjoying his ride around the golf course that the other guy, "his very good friend Hussain Sajwani" named in his honor. Makes me want to throw up, and I am a conservative.

bort · Post by **bort** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:12 pm

Good ol' Mittens ain't looking so bad now, is he?

bort · Post by **bort** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:04 pm

bloke wrote:The "lesser of two evils" argument doesn't get anyone very far, as people end up arguing over their favorite Evil.

Clearly. That's what primary elections and debates are all about!

Biggs · Post by **Biggs** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:17 pm

bloke wrote: The "lesser of two evils" argument doesn't get anyone very far, as people end up arguing over their favorite Evil.

Mine is gluttony, but that's obvious to everyone with eyes.

Heavy_Metal · Post by **Heavy_Metal** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:09 am

bort wrote:Good ol' Mittens ain't looking so bad now, is he?

Romnesia!

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:03 pm

bort wrote:Good ol' Mittens ain't looking so bad now, is he?

Heck, I miss Carter!!

Carter explicitly outlined the reasons behind the issuance of sanctions (including visa cancellation for Iranian nationals) and underscored his intent to pressure Iran's regime. By contrast, Trump's proposal was markedly different: not a sanction, but a security measure framed as a counterterrorism strategy, and one directed at all adherents of a particular religion (regardless of their nationalities) rather than citizens of a particular country. Moreover, Carter's sanctions occurred during a lengthy period of escalating conflict between Iran and the United States (while U.S. hostages remained in foreign captivity), but Trump's proposal came in response to a mass shooting perpetrated by an American citizen and his immigrant wife.

http://www.snopes.com/jimmy-carter-bann ... mmigrants/" target="_blank

But the biggest difference between the two??

Carter was the President and actually did it.

Trump is a loudmouth who only popped off about it but is powerless to actually do anything!!

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:05 pm

Oh, my favorite sin is sloth.

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:57 pm

Three Valves wrote:
one directed at all adherents of a particular religion (regardless of their nationalities)

As long as people continue to belive Islam is just a religion, and ignore the political aspect, we are doomed.

http://www.politicalislam.com/about/

Islam is a cultural, religious and political system. Only the political system is of interest to kafirs (non-Muslims) since it determines how we are defined and treated

The head of American Islamic Forum for Democracy supports the ban Trump called for. Until such time as a way to reliably separate the political aspects.
http://aifdemocracy.org/declaration-of- ... er-4-2015/

We are Muslims who live in the 21st century. We stand for a respectful, merciful and inclusive interpretation of Islam. We are in a battle for the soul of Islam, and an Islamic renewal must defeat the ideology of Islamism, or politicized Islam, which seeks to create Islamic states, as well as an Islamic caliphate.

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