Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:29 pm
YOU tell this kid that you don't trust him... 

So why the hell do you think wearing baggy pants got started? A fashion statement?iiipopes wrote:Virtues in a diversified world: tolerance, forbearance, taking someone for who he/she really is, etc.
So, why the hell are you trying to either develop or propagate another negative stereotype with this stupid poll?
Not enough TubeNet thongs were available...TubaRay wrote:So why the hell do you think wearing baggy pants got started? A fashion statement?
Now that's a fashion statement!windshieldbug wrote:Not enough TubeNet thongs were available...TubaRay wrote:So why the hell do you think wearing baggy pants got started? A fashion statement?
Actually, my understanding is that the whole baggy pants thing ("baggin") to show underwear started in prison as a way to show that one was "available" for sex. I have noticed when I share this tidbit of information with students they immediately tend to hike their pants up.TubaRay wrote:So why the hell do you think wearing baggy pants got started? A fashion statement?iiipopes wrote:Virtues in a diversified world: tolerance, forbearance, taking someone for who he/she really is, etc.
So, why the hell are you trying to either develop or propagate another negative stereotype with this stupid poll?
True enough. Just think about how each generation hates the next's music...usually dismissing it as "noise." That said, however, smoking dope and wearing tie-dye seems a lot more interesting form of rebellion than showing your underwear.Tubadork wrote:Every generation is the worst that the adults have ever seen and they don't feel same and the end of the world is coming and it's the total breakdown of society because their pants are big, but the fact that they wore tie-dye and smoked dope was them just being young kids.
Now that's really funny! Yep! From my experience working with kids, that is exactly the response I would expect.kegmcnabb wrote: Actually, my understanding is that the whole baggy pants thing ("baggin") to show underwear started in prison as a way to show that one was "available" for sex. I have noticed when I share this tidbit of information with students they immediately tend to hike their pants up.
I actually didn't smoke dope, but I'll admit to having worn tie-dye. I also wore bell-bottoms. And yes, those were pretty stupid, but why would anyone think the "display your underwear" look to be cool. About the only look which readily comes to mind, which would be even less cool, would be some of us wearing a TubeNet thong(or any other thong, for that matter).kegmcnabb wrote:That said, however, smoking dope and wearing tie-dye seems a lot more interesting form of rebellion than showing your underwear.But maybe that's just (old) me.
Effective, but untrue:kegmcnabb wrote:
Actually, my understanding is that the whole baggy pants thing ("baggin") to show underwear started in prison as a way to show that one was "available" for sex. I have noticed when I share this tidbit of information with students they immediately tend to hike their pants up.
I'm not naive, and I'm not an idiot. In a "former life" I both prosecuted and defended such. (Damn, now everyone knows. I knew I couldn't keep it hidden forever, but, oh, well...) So I've dealt with all sides of this issue. Yes, as Doc will probably agree, there are times when issues of manner of dress combined with other actions raise legitimate suspicions that warrant investigation, but I've also had to protect a few civil rights, on both sides of the courtroom table, just because with some people, it was only a fashion statement taken out of context.TubaRay wrote:So why the hell do you think wearing baggy pants got started? A fashion statement?iiipopes wrote:Virtues in a diversified world: tolerance, forbearance, taking someone for who he/she really is, etc.
So, why the hell are you trying to either develop or propagate another negative stereotype with this stupid poll?
So how do YOU know what her honor is wearing under those robes?iiipopes wrote:I've also had to protect a few civil rights, on both sides of the courtroom table, just because with some people, it was only a fashion statement taken out of context.
Although I mostly agree with the sentiment in your post, I have to question why it is OK to try to diffuse a stereotype, and it is not OK to call attention to one. Isn't this a case of "what is good for the goose is good for the gander?"iiipopes wrote: There is just no need on a forum for a poll that calls attention to a stereotype, unless the purpose is to try to diffuse the stereotype.
Or what she isnt wearing...windshieldbug wrote:So how do YOU know what her honor is wearing under those robes?iiipopes wrote:I've also had to protect a few civil rights, on both sides of the courtroom table, just because with some people, it was only a fashion statement taken out of context.
Instead, more like, "Sauce for the goose." To call attention to it without taking steps to diffuse it only perpetuates it.TubaRay wrote:Although I mostly agree with the sentiment in your post, I have to question why it is OK to try to diffuse a stereotype, and it is not OK to call attention to one. Isn't this a case of "what is good for the goose is good for the gander?"iiipopes wrote: There is just no need on a forum for a poll that calls attention to a stereotype, unless the purpose is to try to diffuse the stereotype.
Where does this car wear it's tires?bloke wrote: