Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:28 pm
so cynical.............
They get done?bloke wrote:after waiting two or three years for some freeway interchange to be totally redone, have ANY of them ever been LESS congested and LESS accident-prone afterward?"
bloke wrote: bloke "... For instance, after waiting two or three years for some freeway interchange to be totally redone, have ANY of them ever been LESS congested and LESS accident-prone afterward?"
Hopefully Rick won't read this thread. It's all the Aggies' fault!bloke wrote:For instance, after waiting two or three years for some freeway interchange to be totally redone, have ANY of them ever been LESS congested and LESS accident-prone afterward?"
That was really sad news about Bluffton University charter bus accident.tbn.al wrote:The Northside Drive HOV exit off I75 Southbound in Atlanta. It is also a left exit but the signage seems to indicate to those not familiar with the intersection that the far left lane is a continuation of the I75 HOV lane. You can easily get to the top of the ramp at 60 mph only to find a stop sign followed by a 30 foot drop. A college baseball team bus made that mistake recently and killed 7 people. Now maybe they will fix it. At least they could put up some big signs with unambiguous instructions or tire rumble strips. The paper said this was the 5th incident like this in 4 years. Duh!
Reading this thread is too much like work.Mark wrote:Hopefully Rick won't read this thread. It's all the Aggies' fault!bloke wrote:For instance, after waiting two or three years for some freeway interchange to be totally redone, have ANY of them ever been LESS congested and LESS accident-prone afterward?"
That's the interchange a couple of miles to the west, for Glenstone Avenue, an even tinier and more cramped diamond/cloverleaf, which you actually have to slow down as you round the curves instead of being able to accelerate as you need to to merge safely, which it's actually more entertaining to watch the dodge cars at rush hour than it is to watch the hackers at the public golf course you're referring to.tbn.al wrote:Your locals will just stop at the top of the flyover to watch them putt out on number two green. Or is that 11. It's been a long time.
It is very high. In fact, my older sister refuses to drive over it beacause she finds it too scary. I think it's the best view from inside your car for at least 100 miles in any direction.Rick Denney wrote:The US-59 South/I-610 West Loop Freeway interchange... The highest bridge in the stack was the highest bridge over land in the world when it was built; pretty impressive considering that where it was built is dead flat.
You understand that being from Texas and having attended a university other than A&M, I am required by law to make Aggie jokes.Rick Denney wrote:Both were designed by Aggies, and those Aggies were one reason that Texas, in the 70's and 80's, had the best roadway system in the world.
Be careful, or I'll sic Dr. Jones on you.Mark wrote:You understand that being from Texas and having attended a university other than A&M, I am required by law to make Aggie jokes.
In the paper this morning the Georgia DOT has reiterated it's stand that the exit ramp conforms to all federal codes and was not the cause of the bus accident. However, just to be on the safe side they have decided to improve the ramp with larger signs, more visibile striping and raised roadbed reflectors across the entire lane to act as rumble strips. The ramp was closed for repair at 9:00 AM this morning and the work should be completed on Thursday. It's a good thing, but it won't help those poor Bluffton kids or their families. This really should have been done last year when it killed that lady from Dalton.Rick F wrote:That was really sad news about Bluffton University charter bus accident.
About 3 years ago I got caught in the HOV lane on I-75—but going North. It was somewhere south of the I-85 interchange if I remember right. All of a sudden I was exiting I-75. Thankgoodness it was daylight and I could see my mistake. They do need to improve the signs there.
Having worked for the FAA more than 30 years, it's sad to say that the U.S. Govt many times "reacts" rather than "act".Tbn.al wrote:This really should have been done last year when it killed that lady from Dalton.
In my experience, the sorts of things they did are unlikely to have made any difference in the accident rate or in any particular accident that got a lot of publicity. It's the stuff they do to placate grandstanding politicians (and the media and citizen groups who goad them).tbn.al wrote:In the paper this morning the Georgia DOT has reiterated it's stand that the exit ramp conforms to all federal codes and was not the cause of the bus accident. However, just to be on the safe side they have decided to improve the ramp with larger signs, more visibile striping and raised roadbed reflectors across the entire lane to act as rumble strips. The ramp was closed for repair at 9:00 AM this morning and the work should be completed on Thursday. It's a good thing, but it won't help those poor Bluffton kids or their families. This really should have been done last year when it killed that lady from Dalton.
That's because they have been beaten down for trying to act without the public outcry that forces the reaction. And politicians and citizens and advocacy groups are often doing the beating.Rick F wrote:Having worked for the FAA more than 30 years, it's sad to say that the U.S. Govt many times "reacts" rather than "act".Tbn.al wrote:This really should have been done last year when it killed that lady from Dalton.
Yes. Yes. and I am very familiar with the ramp in question.Rick Denney wrote:Is there any real reason to believe that the signs are too small? Were the markings the reason why the driver had the accident? I'm unfamiliar with the ramp in question