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craigpotter · Post by **craigpotter** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:28 pm

I have a 95 4 door Civic ex, and somehow I squeezed out 52 mpg out of it on a trip. I was very pleased

. Believe it or not it has a pretty big trunk that could probably hold a smaller tuba. I don't know for sure though - I've got a big Willson that takes up all of the back seat!

kegmcnabb · Post by **kegmcnabb** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:02 pm

I gots me a TubaJeep -- a 92 Cherokee. My Marzan BBb fits perfectly behind the back seat for all Tuba gigs complete with music stand and folding chairs. For my rock band gigs I must fold down the back seat but that gives me plenty of room for my bass, amp, my Conn fiberglass sousie and whatever costumes the evening calls for.

Craig McClelland
Craig@sonicabsurdities.com
www.sonicabsurdities.com

Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:36 pm

bloke wrote:SPEAKIN' OF OLD FARTS AND TRANSPORTATION, PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS:

Old farts are always driving super-slow down the road and they walk like they're standin' still. They're so slow that you continuously think, "They'll never get anywhere."...

...but when you get to your destination, somehow they're always there too...

That's easy Joe. The old farts are more "tech-savvy" than we realize:

Even Saddam knows how to use one--but why is he hanging out with Spock?

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:18 am

I have owned 81, 83, and 97 Jeeps and never had a problem, putting tubas in them, but I did remove the reas seat permantly. Had to sell the 97 after I got married, though, because it didn't have A/C. It had a soft top, hello???

dwaskew · Post by **dwaskew** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:53 am

Wow! you owned 261 jeeps?

I can see why you sold 97 of them. That's a big garage!

(sorry, couldn't resist

)

dwa

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:05 pm

cjk · Post by **cjk** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:29 pm

the place where we bought our Equinox had 465 SUV's on the lot when we bought

This should tell you something.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:38 pm

bloke wrote:I think I'll get one of these Caddy SRX jobs for muddin' around in riverbeds, and rock climbin', and - when needed - winchin' my friends' stuck trucks out of ditches.

Joe, if you want ditch-pullin' equipment, mebbe you should gitcherself one of these:

Just like the one that's been fired up every day at the crack of dawn for the last two weeks at my neighbor's place. That and a couple of chainsaws. His wife wants to improve the view from their living room, so they're taking out about 15 loads of logs...

Heck of an alarm clock...

Matt G · Post by **Matt G** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:28 pm

You guys need to step up to the plate....

If you want to haul tubas and look cool compared to those Hummer2 drivers you need on of these:

I wonder how much a set of spinner rims would cost?

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:29 pm

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:53 pm

To me the smaller Jeeps (CJ then Wrangler) snouldn't even be put in the same category as many of these ridiculous SUV's out there that are nothing but ego extensions. The Jeeps got half decent mileage for a real 4x4, only took up 1 parking space, and didn't weigh 2-3 times more than every other vehicle on the road. Perhaps they should make all those posers driving hummer H2's (that are actually outpertformed by the Volvo XC90 offroad except in when in low range) have a bumpersticker that says "I Love Osama"

cjk · Post by **cjk** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:54 pm

I wonder what the price difference is between yours and the caddy...

starting prices of $21,560 vs $38,690

Same basic vehicle, but I'd bet a huge difference.

Yesssssssiiiiiiiiireeeeee, same basic vehicle just like the MW 2155 is the same basic tuba as the MW 2000.

(if you don't count the different engines, all wheel drive, and bling).

Christian, who would have to select option C, "none of the above"

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:03 pm

cjk · Post by **cjk** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:05 pm

Go Marty!

I'm purty sure SUV stands for minivan, but I never was too good with silly acronyms.

SUV = Sport Utility Van ?

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:01 am

Matt G · Post by **Matt G** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:15 am

the Equinox also comes with AWD if you want it, we didnt. Same Gas Mileage

No offense, but there is no way that an all-wheel drive, wether it be a 4x4 or true AWD, can get the same mileage as the 2WD. More moving parts means more friction and more weight equals less efficiency.

To the Minivan arguement:

I owned a 1985 Plymouth Voyager. It had no acceleration. It got OK fuel mileage. It did haul a ton of stuff though and was completely lockable and could do it easily.

I kick myself in the rear end constantly for buying a 2001 Ford Ranger XLT 4x4 instead of a Honda Odyssey. Those minivans are huge inside (only 1" narrower than a FULL size truck not a compact as most SUV's are based on) and can haul *** (240hp V-Tech engine, nearly as fast as your Taurus SHO, Joe) and had a resale value that was unbelieveable (only lost on average $600 in value for a one year ownership).

I was convinced I needed 4WD for the snow and the wife told me the minivan wasn't cool. Oh well. At least I still have my 96 GTI. It hauls two tubas (993 besson in the hard case and a 6/4 Holton in a soft case) with luggage and some room to spare with two people and good mileage. My GTI is still running strong with 115,000 miles on it.

My wife and I will never own an SUV. They don't handle and they suck in many areas. Resale will soon deteriorate and most of 'em are just plain ugly. If I ever need to own my own mass-transit vehicle, I will buy another minivan. For now, I will own small cars and be happy. I'll be able to smoke all of you SUV owners with a few engine mods and still sip fuel. I can stop my car and turn it also, something I enjoy to do. Thankfully, the folks in Germany have half a brain and continue to make some well-styled and high performance station wagons. Those hold nearly as much internally as any SUV and still take off, stop and turn as well as getting good mileage.

What really kills me is the mom with two kids (and that is all she will have) driving a Suburban/Excursion/M-1/whatever who can't park it and can't keep it in one lane. Heck, most people, men and women, cannot manuever a compact size truck let alone a full size truck with any real ability. Ahh, but her husband feels safe if she gets into an accident with it. Well, my wife has a clue about driving and her 2003 Jetta 1.8T can keep her out of most accidents because it can EVADE problems unlike those civilian tanks.

It would be amazing what would be on the road if people actually bought what they need to drive instead of what they think they need/want.

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:45 am

TubeNet

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2005 Chevy Equinox

I gots me a TubaJeep, too.