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“My father was frightened of his mother. I was frightened of my father and I am damned well going to see to it that my children are frightened of me.â€

Mommy! Mommy! I keep going around in circles!

Shut up or I'll nail the other foot to the floor.

bloke wrote:My Mom used harsh (cheap) bar soap in the mouth, and my Dad used head-thumpin's.

bloke "who didn't learn"

My mom went from hand (when it really did hurt her more than it hurt me) to wooden soup spoon - it broke.
The last whoopin I got from dad was when I was still in 4th grade...after that I "graduated" to a size 8 1/2 boot to the ***.
Grandma (all 4'10" of her) sent us out for switches.

I preferred the boot to the switch!

My dad made a wooden paddle and drilled a hole in it so it whistled as it came down. Mom would have us go hunt a switch.
I seldom spanked my kids but when it was necessary, I made it hurt so I needed to do it less often.

Proverbs 13:24 (Amplified Bible)
He who spares his rod [of discipline] hates his son, but he who loves him disciplines diligently and punishes him early.

In my family, retribution was swift and reasoned. The usual sin was wandering off without permission and without checking in so that my absence caused worry. The second punishable sin was lying about it or trying to cover it up. Before the punishment, I was required to explain the sin and why it was wrong, and afterwards to apologize for it to the offended party (who was usually my mother, while punishment at that level was meted out by my father). These, I believe, had their effect, and now I cannot abide those (including myself) who needlessly make others worry and those who lie about their mistakes.

Grounding didn't work--most of the time I was happy to entertain myself in my room.

The tool of choice was The Belt, applied to the soft bits on the backside, without any degradation other than physical pain. It hurt enough so that my father wasn't obliged to punish me that way more than a handful of times, but not so much that there was any pain ten minutes later.

The couple of times I was similarly punished at school, the sins were cussing loudly enough to be heard by a teacher. They used paddles in those days, which I preferred to the soap, which was applied once in the second grade on the basis of a false accusation from a mortal enemy. Thus, I have always thought the soap was abusive, heh, heh. The paddles didn't work: I still cuss like a sailor when I let my guard down.

Rick "who has chosen to endure much greater pain as an adult" Denney

My folks kept it simple....they ascribed to the Pain is a powerful teacher attitudes.

Both Mom & Dad spanked hard and frequent. We (5 kids) got it bare-hand on bare-butt. Dad is a scientist and figgered that the pain threshold (feedback) for his bare-hand was roughly equivalent to the pain threshold of our bare-butt. He was wrong, but it was his theory and he stuck to it.

oh yeah.....we all had mandatory piano lessons from 1st through ~10th grade...and mandatory practice of 30 min per day minimum....or else!. Talk about discipline!

Similar to that noted by Greg above. All 5 of us kids turned out pretty well. I'm thankful now for them keeping it simple.

...an NO PIANO PLAYERS....but most of us have pianos in our houses to play on.

I say dicipline hard and love 'em hard

Dylan King wrote:Proverbs 13:24 (Amplified Bible)
He who spares his rod [of discipline] hates his son, but he who loves him disciplines diligently and punishes him early.

Given that the biblical writers use shevet for many different objects, including a shepherd's rod/crook: most famously, in Psalm 23.4; how do you know that the shevet in this passage is what you assume it is, and that it was used in the way you assume it was?