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Re: Does Tubenet Have An Anniversary Date?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:02 pm
by Todd S. Malicoate
The oldest archived post I can find:

http://www.chisham.com//tips/bbs/dec199 ... /6968.html

is dated November 23, 1998. I don't think that was the beginning...I believe it was a bit earlier than that.

Re: Does Tubenet Have An Anniversary Date?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:57 pm
by WoodSheddin
Todd S. Malicoate wrote:The oldest archived post I can find:

http://www.chisham.com//tips/bbs/dec199 ... /6968.html

is dated November 23, 1998. I don't think that was the beginning...I believe it was a bit earlier than that.
Up until that time I simply pruned off the old posts and they disappeared into the ether. I started keeping the archive after some member stated it might be a good idea to keep the old stuff around. For SOME reason i thought it was Rick Denney's idea, but that was 10 years ago and my memory ain't all that.

I know I started the BBS while working for the Indiana University computer support phone line. My first IT job back in 1995 I believe. I either started the BBS in 1995 or early 1996. I can't remember for sure.

If someone was able to find an archive of the old CMSU tubaeuph mailing list I posted an announcement there when I started it up. The idea was to have a place which stayed on topic unlike what was happening to the Tubaeuph list.

The BBS was my first major foray into CGI programming and it started out as the WWWboard software from Matt somebody. I made dozens and dozens of modifications to the software over the years mainly in an effort to deter spamming and hooligans.

In 2004 the software was migrated to a registration required format and phpBB2. That year it also was migrated away from being hosted at Indiana University to being hosted on a commercial server. It had been hosted temporarily at a commercial server before while I worked for a startup IT firm, but it had been migrated back to IU. Now that it was commercial and I was footing the bill I started accepting sponsors.

This year, 2008, it migrated to the updated phpBB3 and continues on, but now with a couple of moderators and minor admins helping out on a volunteer basis at the moment.

Tubenet is probably in it's 13th year. If anyone ever happens to find the tubaeuph archive with my announcement then that will most likely be the TubeNet Anniversary.

Re: Does Tubenet Have An Anniversary Date?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:01 am
by Todd S. Malicoate
Thanks, Sean.

And while I'm at it, thanks for your continued efforts to keep TubeNet such a great site.

Hope you, Farah, and the kids are doing well. I'll always remember your hospitality putting us KU boys up during the ITEC at Northwestern way back when...good times.

Re: Does Tubenet Have An Anniversary Date?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:09 am
by Rick Denney
WoodSheddin wrote:Up until that time I simply pruned off the old posts and they disappeared into the ether. I started keeping the archive after some member stated it might be a good idea to keep the old stuff around. For SOME reason i thought it was Rick Denney's idea, but that was 10 years ago and my memory ain't all that.
It's a good idea, but it wasn't mine. I didn't start participating in Tubenet until about 1999, as I recall. I know it was after I moved to Virginia, and that was in '98.

Rick "TEN YEARS IN VIRGINIA?!" Denney

Re: Does Tubenet Have An Anniversary Date?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:21 am
by dwaskew
Well, to quote the Tootsie-Pop Owl "the world may never know"

I just conversed with Carl Webster, current owner of the tubaeuph listserv, and he reported this, when asked about having archives of the CMSU/U Washington listserv:

"No, we searched high and low for them several years ago. I even offered to pay U Wash for a restored copy but they never made backups of any of their lists."

so, there it is.......

Re: Does Tubenet Have An Anniversary Date?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:51 am
by WoodSheddin
dwaskew wrote:I just conversed with Carl Webster, current owner of the tubaeuph listserv, and he reported this, when asked about having archives of the CMSU/U Washington listserv:

"No, we searched high and low for them several years ago. I even offered to pay U Wash for a restored copy but they never made backups of any of their lists."

so, there it is.......
Carl took over from Charles McAdams who ran the list at CMSU before it moved to U Washington. Either way there are most likely no archives. This was before Google, Altavista, and maybe even Yahoo. Yahoo might have had some rudimentary indexing of website links, but I don't think anyone had really kicked off website content indexing yet. So this would mean no secondary archive apart from the listserv host at CMSU.

I know I graduated from Northwestern in 1995 and moved to Bloomington, IN so Farah could finish her degree at IU. That is the first year I had to work fulltime and that job was at the university computer support line answering tons of calls regarding dialup issues mostly. A friend there showed me how to use CGI.

Re: Does Tubenet Have An Anniversary Date?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:22 am
by dwaskew
Re: tubaeuph listserv-- Actually, there was a student who took it over at the University of Washington, when Charlie McAdams stepped back from running it--as memory serves, Charlie said he couldn't keep up with it time wise (everything was manual, I believe, and nothing, or very little, was automated) The student, whom I remember nothing about, except that he existed and was at the University of Washington, took it over for a year or so, but it was left predominantly unmoderated and got rather, well, shall we say, uncivil. Sometime after that, Carl Webster took it over, and eventually moved it to yahoo.groups--there -may- have been an intermediary place before yahoo--just don't remember. Sean, as I remember, started tubenet as a place to talk more about tubas and euphoniums, without the flame wars, etc. The shift to phpbb was a major good thing, as we could more easily sort our conversations, etc.

Charles McAdams isn't at CMSU any longer, so who knows if those really old archives are even around.

Re: Does Tubenet Have An Anniversary Date?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:58 am
by WoodSheddin
I'll keep poking around, but I did find some code I wrote in November, 1995 pertaining to a database of names and email addresses to tuba and euphonium musicians could contact each other. While poking around I also ran across this.

http://www.chisham.com/msgs/messages/msgs4913.html" target="_blank

There are a few more oddball ones around which somehow did not get deleted over the years. Unfortunately the original software did not include the year of the post. I believe this post was made in 1995 shortly after it went public, but I am not entirely positive.

If only Joe Colletti knew then.

Re: Does Tubenet Have An Anniversary Date?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:14 pm
by windshieldbug
Sean Chisham in his [url=http://www.chisham.com/faq.html]TubeNet BBS FAQ[/url] wrote:
How old is TubeNet?

I started TubeNet in about 1995.

Re: Does Tubenet Have An Anniversary Date?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:48 pm
by jbaylies
The Wayback Machine offers some nostalgia to you TubeNet veterans:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.chisham.com/" target="_blank

Image

:shock: :D

Re: Does Tubenet Have An Anniversary Date?

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:56 am
by ThomasDodd
jbaylies wrote:The Wayback Machine offers some nostalgia to you TubeNet veterans:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.chisham.com/
Anyone know the original address (addresses?) ?
Might get some of the '96 posts that way as that's when the Wayback Machine archive starts.
(looks like late 96 though)

Re: Does Tubenet Have An Anniversary Date?

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:24 pm
by WoodSheddin
ThomasDodd wrote:Anyone know the original address (addresses?) ?
I believe the first address was http://hirsbrunner.ucs.indiana.edu/~schisham" target="_blank, but that shows up nowhere I can find.