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Just listened to this album for the first time in a loooong time.

Very hip jazzy album. Hit By Varese, All Is Well, While the City Sleeps, Dialogue I & II and many others including the pop one Saturday in the Park.

ken k

CTA (#1) was the best. I love the long versions of "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?", "Beginnings", and some of the off-beat stuff like "South California Purples."

LoyalTubist wrote:"Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?"

I believe that it is "25 or 6 to 4."

Nick Pierce wrote:

LoyalTubist wrote:"Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?"

I believe that it is "25 or 6 to 4."

The long piano solo? No. I was there. I know what I am talking about. Bobby Lamm still has great piano chops. I bought the record when it came out!

25 or 6 to 4 is NOT EVEN ON THAT ALBUM!!!

"25 or 6 to 4" and "Does anybody really know what Time it is" are defiantly two different songs.

Davy wrote:"25 or 6 to 4" and "Does anybody really know what Time it is" are defiantly two different songs.

Definitely defiantly!

Davy wrote:"25 or 6 to 4" and "Does anybody really know what Time it is" are defiantly two different songs.

You don't say?

Sorry if I somehow (how?!?!) offended someone with my innocent attempt at a joke.

Nick Pierce wrote:

Davy wrote:"25 or 6 to 4" and "Does anybody really know what Time it is" are defiantly two different songs.

You don't say?

Sorry if I somehow (how?!?!) offended someone with my innocent attempt at a joke.

for the record....I thought it was funny....

I got the joke. But it's not funny.

"25 or 6 to 4" means "3:35 or 3:34." I know that. But it sounded like some kid thought that all Chicago songs sound alike.

Love the band, what little I've gotten to hear of theirs, and I am well aware of both the difference between the two songs and the meaning behind "25 or 6 to 4."

How might I have better articulated it?

Nick Pierce wrote:How might I have better articulated it?

For sure, with a glitter gold Kellyberg.

Nick Pierce wrote:Love the band, what little I've gotten to hear of theirs, and I am well aware of both the difference between the two songs and the meaning behind "25 or 6 to 4."

How might I have better articulated it?

Some things are better left unsaid.

LoyalTubist wrote:

Nick Pierce wrote:Love the band, what little I've gotten to hear of theirs, and I am well aware of both the difference between the two songs and the meaning behind "25 or 6 to 4."

How might I have better articulated it?

Some things are better left unsaid.

Truer words were never spoken, although what things those are is often a matter of opinion. Enjoyed the conversation.

I'll never forget my five piece bar band spending six rehersal sessions cleaning up "Saturday in the Park" when it first came out. Thankfully all five of us sang and had access to trumpet and sax. We were proud of our rendition and played the song at least once a night for two years or more. We never tired of it.

I was a Chicago freak when I was in high school and started buying their record albums then. I was in school from '79 to '82 so the albums were easy to find. Later on in the mid-80's when cd's began to replace vinyl I had to go to flea markets to continue buying them . I was poor and didn't have a lot of cash to spend on records then so it took me a long time . I belive I have almost a complete collection of all their albums from the very first one (CTA) to number XI. That's the point where they changed their style drastically and started to really suck. I even have the complete box set of Chicago at Carnegie Hall . This includes the hugh wall size posters,booklet,photos, concert schedule etc .. . This was recorded live and even though the sound quality is bad the group was great.

Here's some trivia for you about the group :

- The very first album was not number as most of the others were. It was called
CTA - Chicago Tranist Authority. That's what the groups name was originally
supposed to be.

- Chicago made a " disco album ". It was called Hot Streets and was one of the
few to have a name and not a number. It featured two new members of the
band Donnie Dacus( guitar and vocals) and Laudir deOliviera ( percussion)
It sucked..... a lot ... Of course I have a copy of it on vinyl .

- The original lead guitarist and vocalist,Terry Kath,killed himself by putting a gun to his head. The story has always been that it was accidental. But, I have read that he was distraught over the fact that his "psychedelic" style of guitar playing wasn't getting the same amount of notice that the likes of Jimmie Hendrix were getting even though he had been playing that way about as long as Hnedrix had been .

- Of the orginal memebers Terry Kath( guitar,vocals) and Peter Cetera (bass,Vocals) were the only two without any college training. Kath could neither read nor write music as he was self trained.The trombonist ,Jame Pankow,is a memeber of Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia .

I agree with Oldbandnerd regarding them sucking after XI. They became very pop and commerically oriented after that. Basically, to me, CTA died when Terry Kath died.