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bloke "Talking about the weather is boring. Let's talk about gas prices and sousaphone necks."

and valve oil. Let's talk about valve oil. And slide grease.

Chilly. Rainy. Rain should stop by tomorrow.

Was really cold earlier in the week. Wind chill down to 7 degrees (in the morning, anyway).

-14 with a wind chill of around -24 here right now. There's a good layer of snow on the ground and more expected. I should have gone to Tucson for Grad school rather than North Dakota

Near 80 today in Southern Cal but supposed to get cold over the weekend - highs in the 60s.

LJV wrote:Snow in NOLA.
When's the last time that happened!
Global warming?

You don't seem to understand. If the temperature is warm, it is due to global warming(obviously). It the temperature is cold, it is due to global warming. In fact, if we have a temperature, it is due to global warming. Get it, now?

I've got snow till the end of winter now...
few inches on the ground for a few days now.

13 degrees with a statewide blizzard warning through 6:00am Monday morning

around the 60's here in the

extreme south

SoundMinistries wrote:-14 with a wind chill of around -24 here right now. There's a good layer of snow on the ground and more expected. I should have gone to Tucson for Grad school rather than North Dakota

Yes, you should have! We haven't had a freeze yet, although today we have Seattle weather, cool and rainy. We love rain here...it happens too seldom to get tired of. I get tired of sunshine.

MA

the mean high and mean low this month have been 53 and 35 around here. on the cold side of normal (usually the fog moderates the temps more on the low end).

MaryAnn wrote:

SoundMinistries wrote:-14 with a wind chill of around -24 here right now. There's a good layer of snow on the ground and more expected. I should have gone to Tucson for Grad school rather than North Dakota

Yes, you should have! We haven't had a freeze yet, although today we have Seattle weather, cool and rainy. We love rain here...it happens too seldom to get tired of. I get tired of sunshine.

MA

I do somethimes wish I would have gone to UofA to study with Kelly, but am doing conducting rather than tuba and am very pleased with my choice to study at UND with Jim Popejoy. Its cold in the winter, but not sure I'd be albe to handle the summers in Tucson any better than I can handle the winters in ND I've had a few lessons with Kelly though and he is definitely a top notch teacher and just a great all around guy.

After some pretty cold weather, we have enjoyed temps in the 70's since Christmas. Now it's cold again with a stiff North wind and we got some good firewood.

Pay no attention to that evidence to the contrary, I am the great and powerful politically motivated scientific community!

bloke wrote:

I admit that I was clueless that Al Gore had actually won the Nobel Peace prize. When I first saw that graphic, I assumed that it was some sort of joke.

While I realize that he "won", I still think it's some sort of joke.

Let's see...when this post started, in mid December, we had about a week of snow and ice, very unusual for Eugene. Having been told by our command staff (who all drive police package 4x4 Tahoes) that there is "no need for utility vehicles in the patrol fleet" our traffic team, motor unit, and most of our patrol division scrambled to find vehicles which would allow them to respond to all areas of the county. Given that our search and rescue team, marine patrol unit, and reserves were generous, most of our guys got into utility vehicles. (I drove the last utility vehicle in assigned patrol service, I was forcibly...sort of...removed from it in May. I refused to get a 4x4 since it was "so clear" to command staff that I had no need for it. My sedan barely got by with its snow tires, not studs, but then, I didn't have to respond to remote areas of the county, either.)

Fast forward to now, when I get an e-mail from my friend in Wilmington, NC, who was reporting snowfall at her place. She promised to send pics of her dog, who had never seen snow, and was pretty cute.

Weather is weather, it is never predictable, nor constant.

Ally"whose Dad was a weather guesser for 35 years with NOAA"House

Tucson has been warm even for Tucson in January. My furnace did not come on at all the last two days, and it was close to 80 degrees for several days.

Global warming doesn't mean everybody's weather gets warmer; it means that the mean global temperature is rising and that weather patterns are being altered. Warmer ocean water means more violent hurricanes; summer icepack around the North pole is less; icebergs breaking off the Antarctic glaciers in larger sizes; and unusual weather more often in more places.

I don't think that "belief" should be at work here, but rather a systematic look at the data. However, as in every human response, there is always the choice of what data to believe.

MA

Bloke -

From what I've been able to tell on this message board, I like you. You're a smart-***, it appears as though you like to hunt and fish, you enjoy smoked meats, and you play tuba. What's not to like?

However, just as plants produce oxygen as a byproduct (i.e., waste product) from photosynthesis, so are the earth-conscious, "green" results of your efficiency.

Steven "thinking that fishing for largemouth, eating fresh apples, and shooting turkeys with Bloke would be fun, as would be eating smoked pork ribs out of my propane-fired smoker in Bozeman, MT" Ranney

bloke wrote: (Those who agree with my views are afraid to express their views and whisper things to me when no one else is around.)

Haven't they heard of the John Birch Society?

...yet I'm the "insensitive" and "ignorant" person who does not grasp "the big picture"...and (because I don't embrace a facade of intellectualism and "good intentions") I'm a kook.

You are what you are. Surely you don't do all that gardening and stuff so that people will believe you on the subject of meteorology, etc.? I mean, I don't know exactly which kook views we're talking about, but I know you have your share. If you conduct your life in a virtuous way, as it appears you do, then that's great for you, but it does not per se make you right about anything. I am absolutely sure that if we scoured the world for people of similarly exceptional virtue, we would find that their views are all over the map. Conversely, I'm sure we could find people of inferior virtue who subscribe to the same views as you, yet that wouldn't be grounds to reject those views, any more than your virtues give us reason to endorse them.

That's why sometimes it's nice to be able to just get away from the views, and leave politics & religion at the door.

the elephant wrote:I like turtles…

Could you be more specific? Like how they taste? Like how a yellow or red ear slider or a painted turtle looks sitting out on a log soaking up the rays? Like to swim with sea turtles? snapping turtles? Do you hold them in particular esteem because of their intelligence? (well, I believe they are thought to be relatively intelligent, compared to other reptiles.) Do you like Greenpeace volunteers dressed in turtle costumes? Did you have, as a child, a shampoo (or suntan lotion or something) bottle shaped like a turtle, lost and never recovered, leaving you with a desire that has lingered for many decades to return to that location and find it? Would it change your feelings if it turned out that turtles can never like you back?