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Another bankruptcy

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:26 pm
by Chadtuba
Saw a friend post this on FB. Another sad day in the music world http://www.kasa.com/dpps/news/business_ ... ny_3782403

Re: Another bankruptcy

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:41 am
by lowpitchmoravian
And Wells Fargo and Bank of America made record profits giving their CEOs huge bonuses.------------Seems like we have our priorities in this country backwards. The Arts always suffer 1st in recession.

Re: Another bankruptcy

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:03 am
by bort
...and CEOs and corporations donate millions upon millions of dollars to many many non-profits. They can't support every group, you know.

I think a bigger problem is lack of ticket sales. If they were selling out the house every night, they would make a lot more money. And that's a combination of interested people who can't afford to go, interested people who simply don't go (for whatever reason), and a growing number of people that just aren't interested.

Re: Another bankruptcy

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:17 pm
by Brown Mule
bloke wrote:
lowpitchmoravian wrote:And Wells Fargo and Bank of America made record profits giving their CEOs huge bonuses.------------Seems like we have our priorities in this country backwards. The Arts always suffer 1st in recession.
Are either of these banks based in Philadelphia?
How much has either previously contributed to the Philadelphia Orchestra?
Did both stop contributing last year, subsequently prompting the board to file for bankruptcy?
Missed my point(just happened to read about these 2 Corps in this AM paper)-------My point is that the elitists, entitled,ruling class get richer by the day,month,year and the middle class and poor(me) haven't had a raise in three years (while all my bills,ex: medical premiums,gas go up) and I am less able(along with many like me) to buy tickets. I personally used to buy season tickets to my local symphony but stopped(along with eliminating other luxuries). Therefore I personally am part of the reason my local symphony has had to lower salaries. When this recession(depresion) ends maybe the arts will again be endowed as we(I) have more spending money. Not trying to start war---------just trying to explain what I meant--------you're all my friends

Re: Another bankruptcy

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:16 pm
by PMeuph
bort wrote:
I think a bigger problem is lack of ticket sales. If they were selling out the house every night, they would make a lot more money. And that's a combination of interested people who can't afford to go, interested people who simply don't go (for whatever reason), and a growing number of people that just aren't interested.
I totally agree with that. I think that the fleeting culture that is based on ease of access (ie. I want it all now) is influencing the arts. I think that for one to appreciate classical music there has to be some willingness, consciously or sub-consciously, to listen, appreciate, and enjoy music that might last for maybe an hour without breaks. (Mahler's 8 symphony comes to mind with it's two movements and the whole thing lasting over an hour) Our current society is ending towards the exact opposite: short music that sounds "rehashed."

Out of curiosity I checked the most popular video (in view counts) of the PO on youtube. It is of Rachmaninoff playing Rachmaninoff 3 piano concerto. It has just over 1,500,000 views...REbecca blacks video has almost 110,000,000.... Something is 'wrong' here.....

...End Rant...

Re: Another bankruptcy

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:17 am
by Biggs
bloke wrote:consider a p.o.v. other than the one that is taught on college campuses, in newspaper editorials, and on public TV/radio.)
You might be surprised by what you heard if actually talked to a decent sample of individuals on college campuses or actually did some critical reading instead of just assuming the 'liberal media' label to be accurate.

As for public broadcasting...well...they have Prairie Home Companion, at least.

Re: Another bankruptcy

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:20 pm
by Tubaryan12
Hey...if you're going to talk NPR shows, don't leave out "The Vinyl Cafe" :D

Re: Another bankruptcy

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:59 pm
by The Big Ben
Tubaryan12 wrote:Hey...if you're going to talk NPR shows, don't leave out "The Vinyl Cafe" :D
"Vinyl Cafe" is CBC... Canuckastan...