Cookie Dough question

FarahShazam · Post by **FarahShazam** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:42 pm

Has anyone ever gotten salmonella poisioning from eating raw cookie dough? Ever know of anyone getting it?

Just wondering...

FarahShazam · Post by **FarahShazam** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:48 pm

BUmp

Normal · Post by **Normal** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:57 pm

Can cookie dough be a health hazard?
When I bake cookies I usually let my kids stick their fingers in the dough to taste a sample. Now a friend claims that they can get sick this way. I can't believe this one-what could be wrong with cookie dough?!
You may not want to hear this, but it's true: That cozy domestic scene could be setting the stage for illness.

With any homemade food that contains raw eggs, such as cookie dough, cake batter, and eggnog, there is a risk of infection by salmonella bacteria. Salmonella poisoning is the second most common type of food poisoning, bringing on stomach cramps, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea.

When you buy commercially prepared versions of foods that contain eggs, the salmonella risk is gone, according to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Commercial products are made with pasteurized eggs-eggs that have been heated enough to kill bacteria, and that also may contain an acidifying agent that kills the bacteria.

You don't have to give up cookie dough, though. The FDA says that the store-bought kinds are not a food hazard. If you hate to give up that made-from-scratch feeling of accomplishment, you can substitute pasteurized eggs for raw eggs. You can find pasteurized eggs in the refrigerated dairy case at your grocery store. (from Medformation.com)

Do you really want to take the chance? Guess it depends on how cushie your toilet seat is.

FarahShazam · Post by **FarahShazam** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:13 pm

I love cookie dough. I don't know of anyone who hasn't tried it.

I had some today. I hope I don't have to try out my cushy toilet seat yet. That would suck.. well, blow.

I was just wondering if anyone actually got sick from it...

And I wanna know WHO ON EARTH put that little pic in my previous message?! Sean??!

drandomtubas · Post by **drandomtubas** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:36 pm

the only time I ever got sick ( and mildly so) was when I ate entire batch of raw cookie dough. I've been 'tasting' the stuff for... fifteen years now...

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:25 am

Normal wrote:
Can cookie dough be a health hazard?
With any homemade food that contains raw eggs, such as cookie dough, cake batter, and eggnog, there is a risk of infection by salmonella bacteria.

I guess the source of you eggs might be an issue then. But aren't raw eggs often consumed? I'm sure there's a chance of bacteria, buy how high is that chance?
I'm guessing you are more likely to have a car wreck, or slip on wet pavement.

When you buy commercially prepared versions of foods that contain eggs, the salmonella risk is gone, according to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
...
You don't have to give up cookie dough, though. The FDA says that the store-bought kinds are not a food hazard. If you hate to give up that made-from-scratch feeling of accomplishment, you can substitute pasteurized eggs for raw eggs.

O look, the FDA encouraging you to buy processed food with added coloring and preservitives. So it safe to eat cookie dough if you didn't make it. Hpoe you like their recipie. And it's safe if you use a processed egg product in a carton. Just don't use real eggs.

Thomas "going to get milk, cream(for butter), and eggs from a local farmer" Dodd

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:10 pm

I read somewhere that there is more risk of bacteria on the OUTSIDE of the shell that in the egg itself.

tubacdk · Post by **tubacdk** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:09 pm

I've been eating all kinds of cookie dough for years... never gotten sick from it. I did get salmonella from airline food, but never from cookie dough. I'm sure there is a risk, but that's true of anything and everything in life.

-ck

Normal · Post by **Normal** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:22 pm

Here are some statistics

Fresh eggs with shells intact were once thought to be sterile inside. Today, scientists know that fresh, unbroken shell eggs may contain the harmful bacteria Salmonella enteritidis. While the number of eggs affected is less than 1 in 10,000, there have been scattered outbreaks of foodborne illness due to this organism in the past several years. And, fresh, unbroken shell eggs are now considered to be one on the growing list of potentially hazardous foods.

The risk of foodborne illness from eating raw eggs is particularly serious for people who are vulnerable to bacterial infections. These people include the elderly whose immune systems weaken with age, infants whose immune systems are not fully developed, chronically ill people with weakened immune systems, and pregnant women because of risk to the fetus. The risk of foodborne illness from eating raw eggs is particularly serious for people who are vulnerable to bacterial infections. These people include the elderly whose immune systems weaken with age, infants whose immune systems are not fully developed, chronically ill people with weakened immune systems, and pregnant women because of risk to the fetus. (Kansas State University, 1995)

According to the survey, which sampled UK-produced eggs on sale in shops and markets, one in every 290 boxes of six eggs on sale has any salmonella contamination, compared with one in 100 in a 1995/96 survey. (UK Food Standards Agency, March 2004)

Things seem to be different by country. The bottom line is that us healthy people can continue to eat cookie dough. Its worth the trip to the privy now and then. Maybe it would help to wash them down with Sake.

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:31 pm

Normal wrote:
While the number of eggs affected is less than 1 in 10,000, there have been
...
According to the survey, which sampled UK-produced eggs on sale in shops and markets, one in every 290 boxes of six eggs on sale has any salmonella contamination, compared with one in 100 in a 1995/96 survey. (UK Food Standards Agency, March 2004)

Those number don't match well. Are U.S. chickend healthier?
Is the U.K. number one egg or more than one per infected box?

How much contamination is being measured? How much is needed for a reasonably healthy person to notice the effects? For a less than healthy person, or one with a weak immune system?

-Thomas

FarahShazam · Post by **FarahShazam** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:30 pm

I thought, oh my GOSH! Is that cancer from eating chocolate? (re: dunlap's disease). So, I HAD to look it up.

WEll, LOL, it is where your belly "dunlaps" over your belt.

farah

LoyalTubist · Post by **LoyalTubist** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:57 am

Theoretically, chocolate kills dogs and cats. Yet, when I was a child, I always shared my Hershey bar with Lady, our family mongrel. She lived for many years and killed by a freight train. In Indonesia, our cat, Midnight would often steal my Mounds bars--she took them, I didn't offer them to her! We left her in Indonesia and, at the time of my divorce (eight years after we left) the family that took her said she was doing very well, still stealing chocolate bars!

I never offer chocolate to dogs or cats, but they seem to have a suicidal instinct of enjoying chocolate!

tubatooter1940 · Post by **tubatooter1940** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:01 am

I got my grandson baking homemade cookies. I had no idea how much he loved cookie dough until he told me his favorite ice cream is chocolate chip cookie dough. I told him the cook always gets to lick the mixing spoon and bowl and he does. So far no problems.
Makes me wonder which is more dangerous, eating pre-baked cookies from God knows where or rolling the dice on what bacteria may be hitch hiking on or in fresh eggs.
I always wonder about imported beer. Does an anti-American brewrey employee in a foreign country have an opportunity to "sabatoge" a vat of beer to be exported to the U.S.? Know what I mean, Butterbean?

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:44 am

Must be some sort of pica. Cookie dough's for baking.

Joe, not

but

lgb&dtuba · Post by **lgb&dtuba** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:48 am

If the raw eggs are the problem and you are making your own cookies, then just buy pasteurized eggs and use them in the recipe. They should be right beside the regular eggs.

From what I've read

"A healthy person's risk for infection by Salmonella enteritidis is low, even in the northeastern United States, if individually prepared eggs are properly cooked, or foods are made from pasteurized eggs."

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseasei ... ment_g.htm

Albertibass · Post by **Albertibass** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:08 am

i really have only gotten sick sorta once. But it was just a stomach ache you get from eating too much of something. it was last summer, and i was laying around watching some movie and i got up for a snackbreak and found those breakable from pillsbury in the fridge, so i downed a whole pack of them. i am sure i am not the only one who has taken this risk.

tbn.al · Post by **tbn.al** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:40 am

My 26 year old son hardly ever gets a chance to eat a cookie because he always locates the dough before anyone has a chance to cook it. He has eaten hundreds of pounds of the stuff and never been sick. The only time he ever got sick at his stomach was at Marti Gras on a slice of pizza from a street vendor. That's his story and he is sticking to it.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:40 pm

LoyalTubist wrote:I never offer chocolate to dogs or cats, but they seem to have a suicidal instinct of enjoying chocolate!

What does that say about your tuba playing!?

LoyalTubist · Post by **LoyalTubist** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:11 am

tubatooter1940 · Post by **tubatooter1940** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:07 am

tbn.al wrote:My 26 year old son hardly ever gets a chance to eat a cookie because he always locates the dough before anyone has a chance to cook it. He has eaten hundreds of pounds of the stuff and never been sick. The only time he ever got sick at his stomach was at Marti Gras on a slice of pizza from a street vendor. That's his story and he is sticking to it.

You don't suppose he washed the pizza down with a gallon of Jim Beam?

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