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I still stand by the opinion that you shouldn't trust anybody over 50 when it comes to computers....

In before this thread turns political.

I'm going to be on the Internet tomorrow, and I'm going to think what I always think when I remember that some still have C19 and earlier ideas of censorship, collective bargaining, the origin of the universe, and a few other things, just as if nothing had changed.

schlepporello wrote:I've posted this message without wearing any shoes.

Me too -- the shoes make it so much harder to type.

DP wrote:pfft! You'd have us chose to look the other way at theft,
but Tubenet has stickies when a horn is stolen?
You'd have us chose to look the other way at piracy of intellectual property?
Why should ASCAP members compose music for our instrument again?

Thieves often use vans to transport stolen goods after robbing a house. Clearly, the way to deal with the problem of burglary is to ban all of the vans, right?

The good thing about these web sites "going over to the Dark Side" for a day is that it's making a lot of people aware of just how dependent they have become on these sites. It's wise to have alternatives available (and use them regularly).

cktuba wrote: Nice analogy.

There might be a better one in this context - it seems to me that the intellectual property issues around software could be transferred to music. The stuff that gets patented these days. Imagine that the mouse patents a certain chord progression, and then goes out and looks for anyone who uses it and hauls them into court, or threatens to and their obvious financial/legal advantage persuades the putative offender to submit without a fight. Well, you get what you deserve, having stolen their chord progression, instead of inventing your own like an honest musician!

It's already too much like that in the software world, and it's slowly helping to make us a technological backwater. This law would make it drastically worse.

bloke wrote:Just think of all of the dorn stars who have been cheated out of billions of dollars of residuals...

No such thing in the dorn industry. dorn stars get their rate of pay when working and that is the end of it.

The Big Ben wrote:

bloke wrote:Just think of all of the dorn stars who have been cheated out of billions of dollars of residuals...

No such thing in the dorn industry. dorn stars get their rate of pay when working and that is the end of it.

Here I thought they did it for love!

news report quoting some guy, referring to campaign contributions from Hollywood (pro) vs. the computer industry (contra) wrote:The issue "becomes an opportunity for raising more money from these groups," Wertheimer said. "If you're into an important issue and money is flowing in on both sides, then both sides can up the ante."

... and of course, there's that. Everyone loves a contentious issue that can be made to be unresolvable.

bloke wrote:Just think of all of the dorn stars who have been cheated out of billions of dollars of residuals...

It's such a shame to see them get, as you put it, "cheated" like that (nice euphemism, BTW) ...

DP wrote: Now, why do we post stickies for stolen tubas again?

For starters, the tuba community is quite small and tubas a relatively large purchases. By extension, if we reach half of the people on this board there is the possibility to cover a lot of venues where tubas/euphoniums could be sold across the world. Second, To help foster a sense of community it helps to "have each others back" especially since we all know that instruments are big purchases; they are usually the product of lengthy considerations and considerable financial responsibilities.


On the other hand,one of the reasons why there are very few "vigilante" actions against stolen stuff on the internet (Movies, Music, TV shows, Software) is the lack direct consequence to one individual. Most of these stolen items on the internet are sometimes low cost items(for the consumer) (movies, tv shows, etc) and are usually obtained legally and then transferred illegally on the net (in order to make more money).

FWIW, unless I have been looking in the wrong places, I have never seen a sticky about tuba music available for illegal download....