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Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 11:15 pm

I definitely like the original better.

The GREAT line "Oh, God, Ben," actually makes sense in the original. Seems like it was just stuck in the new one as a homage or something.

TubaRay · Post by **TubaRay** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:07 am

"bloke is coo. "

I am quite certain Bloke will be thrilled to learn of this.

Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:14 am

schlepporello wrote:Puleeeze!
They ain't no shootin' and killin' nor horses or cattle!
And John Wayne ain't in it!
How can it possibly be any good?

I don't remember any horses or cattle in "Dr. Strangelove: or, How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb," Wayne, but you seem to like that one. Or does Slim Pickens, by his very presence, make up for that lack of livestock?

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:08 pm

bloke wrote:I kinda liked the book, and the original (1962) screenplay.

Oh, I dunno. I found Frank Sinatra to be entirely too sanctimonious considering how wooden was his acting. Laurence Harvey was supposed to be wooden, at least. But Angela Landsbury was brilliant.

I also thought it a bit ironic that the ACLU was presented as the great hope for protection against this Communist conspiracy, when, in fact, they always seemed to come to the defense of actual Communists at the time. Had the John Birch Society replaced the ACLU in the plot, it would have been more plausible (after all, they were both pro-freedom but anti-Communist to the point of obsessiveness), but then I suspect they'd have had a hard time persuading Mr. Sinatra to be the star, and I also suspect those who opposed the movie at the time might have been wearing different colors. I'm still trying to figure out how a stupid but rigidly anti-Communist President Iselin would have played into the hands of Communist conspirators without revealing the power behind the throne. But that would be a topic for the closed-down Politics forum, so I won't mention it.

Rick "noting that some of those Communist conspiracies turned out to be real, once the KGB files came to light" Denney

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:02 pm

schlepporello wrote:Slim Pickens is the old west in the flesh.

Oh, I dunno. How about Tom Mix? Did Mix ever do a film that wasn't a western?

BTW, did you know that Ken Curtis, who played Festus on "Gunsmoke", was hired by Tommy Dorsey as a replacement for Frank Sinatra?

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:45 pm

Rick Denney wrote:But Angela Landsbury was brilliant.

After seeing Angela Landsbury in the Manchurian Candidate, I never could quite accept her as being a "good gal" in Murder She Wrote.

Another brilliant, but very scary character from about the same time was Andy Griffith in A Face in the Crowd.

TMurphy · Post by **TMurphy** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:14 pm

Dr. Strangelove??? Oh...you mean the second best movie Slim Pickens was ever in.

Matt G · Post by **Matt G** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:44 pm

Yeah!

Blazing Saddles is a cinematic masterpiece.

Almost as good as History of the World: Part One.

Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:03 am

wnazzaro wrote:
Doug@GT wrote:I don't remember any horses or cattle in "Dr. Strangelove: or, How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb,"
Oh, they were there.

I didn't mean the jackasses in the War Room, Bill.

Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:12 am

bloke wrote:
I didn't mean the jackasses in the War Room, Bill.
If you look r-e-e-e-e-a-l close, you can see the horses and cattle in this shot:

Oh. Yes, I see them now.

Kyle Turner · Post by **Kyle Turner** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:09 pm

You can't hear it much, but I'm playing on that soundtrack. They left out some of the best music.

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